Hi,

just some remarks (I have a VX50 with 8x Opteron 880 in the other room...):

Mark Hahn schrieb:
http://www.cybernex.co.uk/tyan_vx50_quad_opteron_servers.htm
afaikt, this is a ladder design:
c-c-c-c
| | | |
c-c-c-c

Not quite, this would make no use of two HT channels.  Its like this:

c--c--c--c
|  |   \/|
|  |   /\|
c--c--c--c

(The two leftmost CPUs need their third HT to connect the two chipsets.)

who says it's so great?  the HT fabric is pretty far from a "perfect"
low-latency 16-port crossbar, for instance.  also, is it really cheaper?
how about if you compare to four 2-socket DC nodes?

Well, from my experiences with the first sold VX50 systems: If you have a well scaling MPI application you are probably better off in price/performance with a bunch of Opteron 180, 252 or 280 based machines and Infiniband. (Or Intel Bensley...) I consider these VX50 beasts more interesting for pre/postprocessing and not too large shmem/omp applications. Such a machine is the answer to "16 threads - do I really need an Altix?"

Best wishes,
Karsten
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