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Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List wrote:

>                             BERNER-L Digest 4175
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
>   1) Elecric Meat Grinder
>         by "Coral and David Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   2) Re: chocolate and other foods to avoid
>         by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   3) Re: Carob/Chocolate Toxicity
>         by "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   4) Re: Carob/Chocolate Toxicity
>         by "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   5) AVMA - Pet Owner's Guide To Common Small Animal Poisons
>         by "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   6) Re: BERNER-L digest 4173
>         by "Jennifer Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   7) BMDC Northern California Christmas Parade and Party
>         by "Kathleen A. Meier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   8) Various  Berner questions
>         by "Joe Cheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   9) Re: chasing tails
>         by Marjie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  10) Question re Flexi leads (Follow-up)
>         by Maureen Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  11) Can your Berner Babble (talk)?
>         by THOMAS SLIDER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  12) List Rules - the "DON'T's"
>         by "Vicky Whitney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  13) Re: Elbow surgery
>         by Cathi Dovico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  14) Re: Can your Berner Babble (talk)?
>         by Molly Bass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  15) ED
>         by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  16) Character draft #3
>         by Santi Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  17) Seasonal dog bone bakers
>         by "Erin Bradmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  18) calendar
>         by "Andrea Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  19) could you please send BERNER-L Digest 4174 and BERNER-L digest 4168 to me again 
>-  thank you
>         by "Carol Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  20) Re: Allergies
>         by "Melissa Zebley, DVM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  21) Not Dog ramps - Dog Steps!
>         by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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> Subject: Elecric Meat Grinder
> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:31:38 -0800
> From: "Coral and David Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: chocolate and other foods to avoid
> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:31:01 EST
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> In a message dated 12/10/2002 9:00:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >In addition to not feeding dogs chocolate, our vet also informed us not to
> >feed our pup any grapes or raisins.
>
> Cudos to your vet for keeping abreast of this sort of thing!!!  He/she is
> quite right, there were several canine deaths recorded in the past year or
> two traced to varying quantities of grapes & raisins.
>
> > Does anyone know of any other particular human foods that should be avoided
> >  that you could post?
>
> Onions.
>
> And, it's not food...but DON'T give your dog ibuprofen (Motrin, Advil, etc)
> or acetaminophen (Tylenol)
>
> Enjoy you rpuppy!
> Sherri Venditti
>
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> Subject: Re: Carob/Chocolate Toxicity
> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:31:30 -0800
> From: "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      "Mike Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      "Dennis Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: "Berner-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> " I had a Newf do a raid on my 3+ pounds of fudge I had bagged for gifts one
> Christmas - when we weren't home, obviously, and, though he was a very
> thirsty dog and did develop diarrhea, he was just fine.  If there was any
> way chocolate should have killed a dog, he was it."
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Actually if the fudge was made with Milk Chocolate it would not have been a
> fatal dose for a normal sized adult Newf.
> With Milk Chocolate the toxic level of chocolate is calculated at:
> 1 oz. per 1 lb. of body weight so....
>
> A 2 lb. dog could die from 2 oz. of milk chocolate, whereas a 96 lb. dog
> could die from 6 lbs. of milk chocolate and a 160 lb. dog could die from
> eating 10 lbs. of milk chocolate.
>
> Semi-sweet chocolate toxicity is calculated at: 1 oz per 3 lbs. body weight.
> 3 x's more toxic than milk chocolate.
> A 3 lb. dog would die from eating 1 oz.
> A 30 lb. dog would die from 10 oz
> A 96 lb. dog would die from 32 oz. or 2 lbs.
>
> With Baker's Chocolate:
>
> Toxicity calculated at:
> 1 0z per 9 lbs. body weight.
> 3 x's more toxic than semi-sweet, and 9 x's more toxic than milk chocolate.
> So a 3 lb. dog who ate only 1/3 of an ounce could die.
>
> 2 oz. per 18 lbs.
> 3 oz. per 27 lbs.
> 4 oz. per 36 lbs.
> 5 oz. per 48 lbs.
> 6 0z. per 54 lbs.
> 7 oz. per 63 lbs.
> 8 0z. per 72 lbs.
> 9 oz. per 81 lbs.
> 10 oz. per 90 lbs.
> 11 oz. per 99 lbs.........
>
> Website:
> http://www.talktothevet.com/ARTICLES/DOGS/chocolatetoxic.htm
>
> Here is an article about "Daisy" a 12 year old Golden who ate a 6 lb. box of
> chocolates and what she went through in order to survive:
> http://www.vetheart.com/choc.html
>
> IMO Chocolate can be deadly and should be kept away/out of reach of dogs.
> Giving dogs chocolate in small amounts will only make it more likely that
> they will seek it out.
> So, especially during the holidays, be careful, keep chocolate out of reach
> of your pets.
>
> Bernerly,
>
> Mary
>
> Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine
> SnoBear Berners
> N. California, USA
> http://snobear.freeyellow.com
>
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> Subject: Re: Carob/Chocolate Toxicity
> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:37:00 -0800
> From: "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      "Mike Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      "Dennis Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: "Berner-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Corrected web address on chocolate toxicity amounts:
>  http://www.talktothevet.com/ARTICLES/DOGS/chocolatetoxic.HTM
>
> Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine
> SnoBear Berners
> N. California, USA
> http://snobear.freeyellow.com
>
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> Subject: AVMA - Pet Owner's Guide To Common Small Animal Poisons
> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:50:03 -0800
> From: "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Berner-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Here is the American Veterinary Medical Assn. website for
> plants/drugs/household products/misc. items which are poisonous, or toxic to
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