Hey Jeff, Just correcting one point: When you browse the internet using the internet browser, it uses RIM's infrastructure internet connection not the carrier's one.
I would suggest you try configuring a proxy authentication under MDS configuration for the local URL of your sharepoint. Sent on the move, from my Javelin. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:32:49 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Bes-Admins Digest, Vol 26, Issue 5 Send Bes-Admins mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Bes-Admins digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: HTTP 401 Errors (Jeff Peters) 2. Re: BES vs BES Express (Mendoza.Ronald) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:37:51 -0500 From: Jeff Peters <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] HTTP 401 Errors To: "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Forgot to add for Mark, If you're using the BB Browser and trying to access internal web sites that require authentication, You can enable that under the MDS Settings -> HTTP -> Authentication Support Enabled = TRUE From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Peters Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:35 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] HTTP 401 Errors @Ron We have our intranet exposed to the internet, so I should be able to get to it from the Internet Browser - And I actually can, because I'm getting a 401... but since the Internet Browser is controlled by BIS? I don't know how to enable Authentication for that browser @Mark When you browse the internet using the Internet Browser, it uses your carrier's internet connection - Kind of like having a public IP When using Blackberry Browser, the traffic all gets funneled through your BES (MDS) and goes out your corporate internet. So assuming you allow internet traffic through you corporate internet, a BB user can get to the public internet from either browser. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eggan, Mark Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:22 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] HTTP 401 Errors Interesting...so the only way we can get Internet on phones at my work is by having it set to Internet Browser for both default and default MDS. Every time we configure the phones with BlackBerry Browser, users are getting 403's and 402's. So let me guess, we are having issues with MDS then? ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mendoza.Ronald Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 9:19 AM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] HTTP 401 Errors AFAIK, intranet access is only available via the BlackBerry Browser. The Internet Browser comes in from the Internet, while the BlackBerry Browser is accessing your network via the BES itself. ________________________________ Ron Mendoza Windows Server Management Section Lead State of California From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Peters Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 8:22 AM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: [Bes-admins] HTTP 401 Errors I'm trying to get users to access our intranet (sharepoint) from outside and they're getting the 401 Unauthorized using the internet browser.. I've enabled Authentication =True for MDS for the blackberry browser, but how do I enable it for Internet Browser? I'd use the Blackberry Browser but they get an HTTP 500 when they try it from the inside.. Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Jeff ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.dataoutages.com/pipermail/bes-admins/attachments/20100302/c0dfccb5/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:41:23 -0800 From: "Mendoza.Ronald" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express To: "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My thought was to actually maintain BES Express for personal BlackBerrys and BES for the state-owned but it looks like that isn't supported. The other thought was to even migrate from BES to BES Express, but I was pretty sure that there would be certain features unavailable to differentiate the two products. ________________________________ Ron Mendoza Windows Server Management Section Lead State of California From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DOWER, BRIAN Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 9:31 AM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express Thanks for that, I hadn't noticed any other differences than you listed below. Items 1 and 3 aren't an issue for us here, unfortunately we already have a BES server so it doesn't look like we'll be able to use BES Express. I had wanted to keep the BES Server for our exec staff, etc and use BES Express for all the people who brought in their personal Blackberry's. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mendoza.Ronald Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express Speaking of BES Express, I pulled it down and took a quick read of the documentation and as far as I can tell, these are the main differences: * Smaller number of IT Policy settings. To be honest, the settings we use for password complexity and content protection are there, so I didn't notice what was missing/unavailable. * No MDS support? As far as I can tell, there is no MDS support which also includes accessing intranet via BlackBerry Browser. I also didn't see a way to disable the Internet Browser, thus forcing all web browsing through the corporate proxy/firewall (which we enforce), making BES Express a no-go for us. * No Instant Messaging support? Also as far as I can tell, there is no enterprise instant messaging integration. This is also a no-go for us as we integrate into our LCS environment. Did anyone else notice the same things or anything different? ________________________________ Ron Mendoza Windows Server Management Section Lead State of California ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. ______________________________________________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. 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