BES Express supports upto 10000 users, free license. (When installed on a separate server other than Exchange) It support upto 75 users when installed on Exchange.
Licenses can be obtained from BlackBerry.com website and you get one free support incident. Sent on the move, from my Javelin. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:33:12 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Bes-Admins Digest, Vol 26, Issue 7 Send Bes-Admins mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Bes-Admins digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: BES vs BES Express (Mendoza.Ronald) 2. Re: BES vs BES Express (Vaudo, David) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:38:05 -0800 From: "Mendoza.Ronald" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express To: "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No CALs required; seems like unlimited users, and only BIS data plan required. ________________________________ Ron Mendoza Windows Server Management Section Lead State of California From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vaudo, David Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:34 AM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express How does the licensing work? Do you still have to pay for cals? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mendoza.Ronald Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:41 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express My thought was to actually maintain BES Express for personal BlackBerrys and BES for the state-owned but it looks like that isn't supported. The other thought was to even migrate from BES to BES Express, but I was pretty sure that there would be certain features unavailable to differentiate the two products. ________________________________ Ron Mendoza Windows Server Management Section Lead State of California From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DOWER, BRIAN Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 9:31 AM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express Thanks for that, I hadn't noticed any other differences than you listed below. Items 1 and 3 aren't an issue for us here, unfortunately we already have a BES server so it doesn't look like we'll be able to use BES Express. I had wanted to keep the BES Server for our exec staff, etc and use BES Express for all the people who brought in their personal Blackberry's. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mendoza.Ronald Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express Speaking of BES Express, I pulled it down and took a quick read of the documentation and as far as I can tell, these are the main differences: * Smaller number of IT Policy settings. To be honest, the settings we use for password complexity and content protection are there, so I didn't notice what was missing/unavailable. * No MDS support? As far as I can tell, there is no MDS support which also includes accessing intranet via BlackBerry Browser. I also didn't see a way to disable the Internet Browser, thus forcing all web browsing through the corporate proxy/firewall (which we enforce), making BES Express a no-go for us. * No Instant Messaging support? Also as far as I can tell, there is no enterprise instant messaging integration. This is also a no-go for us as we integrate into our LCS environment. Did anyone else notice the same things or anything different? ________________________________ Ron Mendoza Windows Server Management Section Lead State of California ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. 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URL: <http://www.dataoutages.com/pipermail/bes-admins/attachments/20100302/38269ec8/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:41:46 -0500 From: "Vaudo, David" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express To: "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <6ea48479399abf41b6aae1c53de73a7d809ca39...@v-exch01.gold.ad.bentley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is remote wipe still available? I should probably just start reading... From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mendoza.Ronald Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:38 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express No CALs required; seems like unlimited users, and only BIS data plan required. ________________________________ Ron Mendoza Windows Server Management Section Lead State of California From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vaudo, David Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:34 AM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express How does the licensing work? Do you still have to pay for cals? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mendoza.Ronald Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:41 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express My thought was to actually maintain BES Express for personal BlackBerrys and BES for the state-owned but it looks like that isn't supported. The other thought was to even migrate from BES to BES Express, but I was pretty sure that there would be certain features unavailable to differentiate the two products. ________________________________ Ron Mendoza Windows Server Management Section Lead State of California From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DOWER, BRIAN Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 9:31 AM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express Thanks for that, I hadn't noticed any other differences than you listed below. Items 1 and 3 aren't an issue for us here, unfortunately we already have a BES server so it doesn't look like we'll be able to use BES Express. I had wanted to keep the BES Server for our exec staff, etc and use BES Express for all the people who brought in their personal Blackberry's. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mendoza.Ronald Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: [Bes-admins] BES vs BES Express Speaking of BES Express, I pulled it down and took a quick read of the documentation and as far as I can tell, these are the main differences: * Smaller number of IT Policy settings. To be honest, the settings we use for password complexity and content protection are there, so I didn't notice what was missing/unavailable. * No MDS support? As far as I can tell, there is no MDS support which also includes accessing intranet via BlackBerry Browser. I also didn't see a way to disable the Internet Browser, thus forcing all web browsing through the corporate proxy/firewall (which we enforce), making BES Express a no-go for us. * No Instant Messaging support? Also as far as I can tell, there is no enterprise instant messaging integration. This is also a no-go for us as we integrate into our LCS environment. Did anyone else notice the same things or anything different? ________________________________ Ron Mendoza Windows Server Management Section Lead State of California ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. 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