I think you are just paranoid enough.



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From: Josh Armour <[email protected]>
To: "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc." 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 11:06:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email

So that takes care of the actual mail delivery issue but there is a lurking 
issue with BIS access.  That issue is users giving (or being comfortable with 
giving) their credentials to another company.  Maybe we are just a little too 
paranoid over here?  That is what I think most institutions are getting at when 
they decide to block BIS access.  Don't get me wrong, its important to block 
new 
data from getting out onto a phone with no device management or policy 
enforcement.  But the user is also a problem in those cases..


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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jonathan Evenden <[email protected]> wrote:

BES is outbound – just don’t block outbound and  you’re fine. You’re blocking 
inbound for OWA/BIS, which is what he said in an earlier post.
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>From:[email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:43 PM
>
>To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
>Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
>email
> 
>HDawg,
> 
>Your post shows these addresses as the BIS servers:
>BIS IP Range 
>206.51.26.0/24 
>193.109.81.0/24 
>204.187.87.0/24 
>206.53.144.0/20 
>216.9.240.0/20 
>67.233.64.0/19 
>93.186.16.0/20 
>68.171.224.0/19 
> 
>Another post on your site 
>http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/793-kb03735-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-enterprise-server.html
> shows the same IP range for BES:
>BES IP Range 
>206.51.26.0 /24 
>193.109.81.0/24 
>204.187.87.0/24 
>216.9.240.0/20 
>206.53.144.0/20 
>67.223.64.0/19 
>93.186.16.0/20 
>68.171.224.0/19 
> 
>Which means that I can’t block those IP’s or BES stops working as well.  
> 
>Back to the drawing board…
> 
>Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
>Papa Murphy’sInt'l. | d360-449-4044 | c360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com
> 
>From:[email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:28 AM
>To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
>Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
>email
> 
>HDawg,
> 
>This looks to be the most promising solution.  Is there another list that 
>shows 
>the BES IP’s?  I’d want to make sure that they were allowed, the ranges 
>provided 
>for BIS are pretty large and I wouldn’t be surprised if they overlap to some 
>degree.
> 
>Thanks!
> 
>Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
>Papa Murphy’sInt'l. | d360-449-4044 | c360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com
> 
>From:[email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hdawg
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:13 AM
>To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
>Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
>email
> 
>BIS can also use OWA. See: 
>http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/792-kb11036-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-internet-service.html
> for a list of what IP’s BIS connections are coming from.  Block these inbound 
>connections at the firewall and you’ve blocked BIS.
> 
>From:[email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Barker
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:09 PM
>To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
>Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
>email
> 
>BIS uses IMAP and POP3.  Are you sure it’s turned off?
> 
>Other options include offline sync using Desktop manager or a 3rd-party EAS 
>bridge like AstraSync.
> 
>From:[email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:55 AM
>To: '[email protected]'
>Subject: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email
> 
>I just found out that we have people with personal Blackberries accessing 
>their 
>company email, they are definitely not set up on my BES, so I’m guessing they 
>must be using BIS.  How can I prevent them from accessing their company email 
>on 
>their personal devices?  I know it’s not via IMAP or POP3, we have that turned 
>off at the Exchange level.
> 
>Thanks!
> 
>Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
>Papa Murphy’sInt'l. | d360-449-4044 | c360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com
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