The correct order to start the BlackBerry Enterprise Server services is 
detailed below:

1.BlackBerry Router
2.BlackBerry Dispatcher
3.BlackBerry Controller
4.All remaining BlackBerry Enterprise Server services
The following is the order in which to stop the BlackBerry Enterprise Server 
services:

1.BlackBerry Controller
2.BlackBerry Dispatcher
3.BlackBerry Router
4.All remaining BlackBerry Enterprise Server services

http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=KB13718


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:32:56 -0800
From: Josh Armour <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES
        services
To: "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,  etc."
        <[email protected]>, Alex Paz <[email protected]>
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Alex, what is the official order to restart these services?

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Josh Armour
MobileOps - Sysadmin
[email protected]
(541) 205-4262
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Peterson David <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Or if you go by what they say in the Disaster recovery guide, it?s
>
>
>
> Controller
>
> Router
>
> Dispatcher
>
>
>
> The really crazy part is they give the same order for stopping and
> starting.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:45 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES
> services
>
>
>
> of the many times i have called rim for various bes/cdo issues the
> order they had me stop and restart is
>
> router
> dispatcher
> controller
>
> they explained why, that explanation has escaped me, but do it now out
> of habit
>
> another slick tool is process eplorer either 64 or 32 bit flavors
> (depends on OS) it allows you to stop a problematic agent, you need to
> find agent problem user is on etc. which many times is root cause of
> mail delivery issues. less impact than stopping and restarting the 3
> key services
>
>  you can get it here
>
> http://download.cnet.com/Process-Explorer/3000-2094_4-10223605.html
>
> pretty slick tool
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:49:49 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES
> services
>
> Mail Store, Policy and Synchronization services start and stop
> automatically with the controller. I wouldn?t think you?d need to use
> start /wait, just net starts.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Richard Lawley
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:44 AM
> *To:* A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
> *Subject:* Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES
> services
>
>
>
> Thank you! I found this one. Can y?all tell me if it looks right to you?
>
>
>
> @echo off
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Router"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Dispatcher"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Controller"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Synchronization Service"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Policy Service"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry MDS Connection Service"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Mail Store Service"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Attachment Service"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Alert"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Administrative Service - Native Code Container"
>
> net stop "BlackBerry Administrative Service - Application Server"
>
> @echo off
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Controller"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Dispatcher"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Router"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Synchronization Service"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Policy Service"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry MDS Connection Service"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Mail Store Service"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Administrative Service - Native Code
> Container"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Administrative Service - Application
> Server"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Attachment Service"
>
> start /wait net start "BlackBerry Alert"
>
>
>
> *Richard Lawley
> **Information Technology Department
> Johanson Transportation Service
> Direct 559-458-2245
> Office 800-742-2053
> Cell 559-907-6610
> Fax 559-458-2236*
>
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> <http://www.johansontrans.com/>* Please visit us at our website:
> www.johansontrans.com to learn more about our company and solutions we
> provide*
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Peterson David
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:37 AM
> *To:* A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc.
> *Subject:* Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES
> services
>
>
>
> This is the official order, though I have seen documents even from RIM
> that have a different order. I?ve never seen anything bad happen if
> it?s done in the wrong order, just some extra errors in the event log,
> but BES seems to throw warnings out just as normal business so I never
> really was concerned about it.  Besides, the services by default
> aren?t set with dependencies, so there?s no real order to the start when the 
> server is rebooted.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&exte
> rnalId=KB13718
>
>
>
> The actual commands would be
>
>  Net start blackberry router
>
> Net start blackberry dispatcher
>
> Net start blackberry controller
>
> Stopping would be net stop in reverse order. If someone thinks it
> really matters, I?d love to know.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Richard Lawley
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:20 AM
> *To:* A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
> *Subject:* [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES services
>
>
>
> I had a batch file that went through the steps to properly stop and
> then restart the BES services and now it?s gone. I?m not a BES guru so
> I don?t think I can just recreate it. Does someone have one that they
> can copy and paste it here so I can rebuild it please?
>
>
>
> *Richard Lawley
> **Information Technology Department
> Johanson Transportation Service
> Direct 559-458-2245
> Office 800-742-2053
> Cell 559-907-6610
> Fax 559-458-2236*
>
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> provide*
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:36:51 -0500
From: "hdawg" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES
        services
To: "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,  etc."
        <[email protected]>, "Alex Paz" <[email protected]>
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Asked and answered - http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB13718



From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Armour
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:33 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.; Alex Paz
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES services



Alex, what is the official order to restart these services?



------------------------------------------
Josh Armour
MobileOps - Sysadmin
[email protected]
(541) 205-4262
------------------------------------------





On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Peterson David <[email protected]> wrote:

Or if you go by what they say in the Disaster recovery guide, it's



Controller

Router

Dispatcher



The really crazy part is they give the same order for stopping and starting.



From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:45 AM


To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES services



of the many times i have called rim for various bes/cdo issues the order they 
had me stop and restart is

router
dispatcher
controller

they explained why, that explanation has escaped me, but do it now out of habit

another slick tool is process eplorer either 64 or 32 bit flavors (depends on 
OS) it allows you to stop a problematic agent, you need to  find agent problem 
user is on etc. which many times is root cause of mail delivery issues. less 
impact than stopping and restarting the 3 key services

 you can get it here

http://download.cnet.com/Process-Explorer/3000-2094_4-10223605.html

pretty slick tool


  _____

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:49:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES services

Mail Store, Policy and Synchronization services start and stop automatically 
with the controller. I wouldn't think you'd need to use start /wait, just net 
starts.



From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Lawley
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:44 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES services



Thank you! I found this one. Can y'all tell me if it looks right to you?



@echo off

net stop "BlackBerry Router"

net stop "BlackBerry Dispatcher"

net stop "BlackBerry Controller"

net stop "BlackBerry Synchronization Service"

net stop "BlackBerry Policy Service"

net stop "BlackBerry MDS Connection Service"

net stop "BlackBerry Mail Store Service"

net stop "BlackBerry Attachment Service"

net stop "BlackBerry Alert"

net stop "BlackBerry Administrative Service - Native Code Container"

net stop "BlackBerry Administrative Service - Application Server"

@echo off

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Controller"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Dispatcher"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Router"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Synchronization Service"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Policy Service"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry MDS Connection Service"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Mail Store Service"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Administrative Service - Native Code 
Container"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Administrative Service - Application Server"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Attachment Service"

start /wait net start "BlackBerry Alert"



Richard Lawley
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Direct 559-458-2245
Office 800-742-2053
Cell 559-907-6610
Fax 559-458-2236

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Please visit us at our website: www.johansontrans.com to learn more about our 
company and solutions we provide

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peterson David
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:37 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES services

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> This is the official order, though I have seen 
documents even from RIM that have a different order.
I've never seen anything bad happen if it's done in the wrong order, just some 
extra errors in the event log, but BES seems to throw warnings out just as 
normal business so I never really was concerned about it.  Besides, the 
services by default aren't set with dependencies, so there's no real order to 
the start when the server is rebooted.

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> 
http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=KB13718

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> The actual commands would be

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>  Net start blackberry router

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> Net start blackberry dispatcher

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> Net start blackberry controller

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> Stopping would be net stop in reverse order. 
If someone thinks it really matters, I'd love to know.

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Lawley
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:20 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: [Bes-admins] Proper order to stop and restart BES services

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> I had a batch file that went through the steps 
to properly stop and then restart the BES services and now it's gone. I'm not a 
BES guru so I don't think I can just recreate it. Does someone have one that 
they can copy and paste it here so I can rebuild it please?

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/> Richard Lawley Information Technology 
Department Johanson Transportation Service Direct 559-458-2245 Office 
800-742-2053 Cell 559-907-6610 Fax 559-458-2236

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>
Please visit us at our website: www.johansontrans.com to learn more about our 
company and solutions we provide

 <http://www.johansontrans.com/>

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