I may be confused ...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Alia Atlas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh - looping can happen naturally as a result of routing reconvergence.
> That's what the TTL is for, in part, to make sure those packets don't loop
> forever.
>
> Micro-forwarding loops are common.
>

Right. I thought we were talking about the case where the TTL isn't
decremented.

Spencer


> Alia
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Alia,
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Alia Atlas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Typed too fast - looping wouldn't happen if the TTL is decremented.
>>> What would
>>> happen is that the packet would be dropped.  I think the text change
>>> shows that
>>> but happy to poke more :-)
>>>
>>
>> Right, I'm talking about the problem where looping happens.
>>
>> Spencer
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Alia
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Alia,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Alia Atlas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Spencer,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that the "may not work properly" means that the packet would
>>>>> be dropped
>>>>> by the local PE.  The looping issue would happen if the TTL weren't
>>>>> decremented
>>>>> and that language is being removed.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, that's two different issues? It might be be great to call them out
>>>> separately, if so ...
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alia
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Spencer Dawkins <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for
>>>>>> draft-ietf-bess-virtual-subnet-06: No Objection
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
>>>>>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> introductory paragraph, however.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please refer to
>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>>>>>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-virtual-subnet/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> COMMENT:
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I support Alia's Discuss. I see that there's proposed text to resolve
>>>>>> that position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will remain a No-Objection if that proposed text is adopted, but I
>>>>>> would be more comfortable if the proposed text was more specific than
>>>>>> "may not work properly" - is there anything else that can go wrong,
>>>>>> besides unbounded looping?
>>>>>>
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