Greg,

This is fine.

Thanks,
Anoop

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 7:01 AM Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Anoop, et al.,
> appreciate your check of the final version of the update to the draft. Below 
> is the new text as in the working version:
>    One use of VXLAN is in data centers interconnecting VMs of a tenant.
>    VXLAN addresses requirements of the Layer 2 and Layer 3 data center
>    network infrastructure in the presence of VMs in a multi-tenant
>    environment, discussed in section 3 [RFC7348], by providing Layer 2
>    overlay scheme on a Layer 3 network.  Another use is as an
>    encapsulation for Ethernet VPN [RFC8365].
>
>    This document is written assuming the use of VXLAN for virtualized
>    hosts and refers to VMs and VTEPs in hypervisors.  However, the
>    concepts are equally applicable to non-virtualized hosts attached to
>    VTEPs in switches.
>
> Kind regards,
> Greg
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 6:28 AM Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Anoop,
>> thank you for the great text you've contributed. Accepted. I'll update the 
>> working text and publish later today.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Greg
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:19 AM Reshad Rahman (rrahman) <rrah...@cisco.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 to Anoop's comments. I've made similar comment to Greg privately, and 
>>> Anoop's proposed text clears things up.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Reshad (no hat).
>>>
>>> On 2018-12-19, 1:54 AM, "Rtg-bfd on behalf of Anoop Ghanwani" 
>>> <rtg-bfd-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of an...@alumni.duke.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Greg,
>>>
>>>     Yes this captures what I was trying to get added.
>>>
>>>     Perhaps the last sentence can be changed to:
>>>
>>>     "This document is written assuming the use of VXLAN for virtualized
>>>     hosts and refers to VMs and VTEPs in hypervisors.  However, the
>>>     concepts are equally applicable to non-virtualized hosts attached to
>>>     VTEPs in switches."
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>     Anoop
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:17 PM Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     > Hi Anoop,
>>>     > thank you for your comments and the suggested text. To clarify the 
>>> extent of the update, would the following accurately reflect the change in 
>>> Introduction you're proposing:
>>>     > OLD TEXT:
>>>     >    VXLAN is typically deployed in data centers interconnecting
>>>     >    virtualized hosts of a tenant.  VXLAN addresses requirements of the
>>>     >    Layer 2 and Layer 3 data center network infrastructure in the
>>>     >    presence of VMs in a multi-tenant environment, discussed in 
>>> section 3
>>>     >    [RFC7348], by providing Layer 2 overlay scheme on a Layer 3 
>>> network.
>>>     > NEW TEXT:
>>>     >   One use of VXLAN is in data centers interconnecting
>>>     >   VMs of a tenant.  VXLAN addresses requirements of the
>>>     >    Layer 2 and Layer 3 data center network infrastructure in the
>>>     >    presence of VMs in a multi-tenant environment, discussed in 
>>> section 3
>>>     >    of [RFC7348], by providing Layer 2 overlay scheme on a Layer 3 
>>> network.
>>>     >    Another use is as an encapsulation for EVPN [RFC 8365].
>>>     >
>>>     >   In the remainder of this document the terms VM and End Station
>>>     >   are used interchangeably.
>>>     >
>>>     > If my understanding of the proposed update is correct, I'd be glad to 
>>> use it (adding RFC 8365 as Informational reference).  Should note that in 
>>> the draft we never used "End Station". Perhaps the last sentence is not 
>>> required.
>>>     >
>>>     > What do you think?
>>>     >
>>>     > Regards,
>>>     > Greg
>>>     >
>>>     > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:08 AM Anoop Ghanwani 
>>> <an...@alumni.duke.edu> wrote:
>>>     >>
>>>     >> I would change the introduction to the following to mention the use 
>>> of
>>>     >> VXLAN by BGP EVPN.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Thanks,
>>>     >> Anoop
>>>     >>
>>>     >> ==
>>>     >>
>>>     >>    "Virtual eXtensible Local Area Network" (VXLAN) [RFC7348] provides
>>>     >>    an encapsulation scheme that allows building an overlay network by
>>>     >>    decoupling the address space of the attached virtual hosts from 
>>> that
>>>     >>    of the network.
>>>     >>
>>>     >>   One use of VXLAN is in data centers interconnecting
>>>     >>   VMs of a tenant.  VXLAN addresses requirements of the
>>>     >>    Layer 2 and Layer 3 data center network infrastructure in the
>>>     >>    presence of VMs in a multi-tenant environment, discussed in 
>>> section 3
>>>     >>    of [RFC7348], by providing Layer 2 overlay scheme on a Layer 3 
>>> network.
>>>     >>    Another use is as an encapsulation for EVPN [RFC 8365].
>>>     >>
>>>     >>   In the remainder of this document the terms VM and End Station
>>>     >>   are used interchangeably.
>>>     >>
>>>     >>    In the absence of a router in the overlay, a VM can communicate 
>>> with
>>>     >>    another VM only if they are on the same VXLAN segment.  VMs are
>>>     >>    unaware of VXLAN tunnels as a VXLAN tunnel is terminated on a 
>>> VXLAN
>>>     >>    Tunnel End Point (VTEP) (hypervisor/TOR).  VTEPs (hypervisor/TOR) 
>>> are
>>>     >>    responsible for encapsulating and decapsulating frames exchanged
>>>     >>    among VMs.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:02 AM Jeffrey Haas <jh...@pfrc.org> wrote:
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> > BESS Working Group members,
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan-04
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> > BFD has finished working group last call on BFD for Vxlan and is 
>>> about ready
>>>     >> > to request publication as an RFC.  A last minute comment suggested 
>>> that we
>>>     >> > should consider inviting comment from your working group for 
>>> expertise.
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> > We will be leaving the last call open until December 21 to leave 
>>> time for
>>>     >> > final comments.
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> > -- Jeff (for BFD)
>>>     >> >
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