Hi Gyan,

Please see zzh> below.

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Would this draft also provide a move towards a stateless core migration of 
inband signaling provided by mLDP to now be provided by BGP.

Zzh> This will still have per-tree state in the core. The only way to do 
efficient replication w/o per-tree state is BIER, at least so far.

Cisco and other vendors may support BGP C-Multicast signaling out of band 
signaling type 6 and 7 mVPN routes today.

Zzh> MVPN type 6/7 routes (RFC 6514) routes are for signaling multicast over a 
“virtual LAN” (overlaid on top of the provider core). This draft is for 
signaling multicast through a network (of many hops) using BGP. In some way it 
is similar to mLDP inband signaling but nowadays in the SR era some people want 
to remove LDP/RSVP entirely.

I thought this was covered in one of the other MVPN RFCs but maybe not.

Could BGP also be used for SR SR-MPLS and SRv6 use cases to carry MVPN services 
out of band via BGP that was traditionally carried over mLDP or PIM.

Zzh> Not exactly sure what you’re asking; but this draft is about establishing 
a multicast tree (native or labeled PIM-like tree or mLDP-like P2MP tunnel), 
which could be used however/wherever it makes sense – e.g. w/ or w/o MVPN.
Zzh> Jeffrey

Kind regards,

Gyan

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