Ah - have just msgd you with this! M Sent from my iPad
> On 24 May 2022, at 20:41, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mike did some more troubleshooting on this and reduced the problem to > > on =: @: > 5!:1<'on' > > which crashed beta-d. I have fixed it for the next beta. > > Henry Rich > >> On 5/22/2022 5:15 AM, 'Michael Day' via Beta wrote: >> OK - the Beta thread must be the right one - this problem has arisen for me >> (only me?) on >> upgrading from J904 beta-c to beta-d. >> >> Sorry to Raul and Bill - I've just realised yesterday's rushed message was >> private; Bill wouldn't >> have seen it. >> >> Re Raul's comments (below): Windows permissions are a pain. I'd always >> assumed the ctrl-alt-del >> method of summoning Task Manager would bestow admin privs. Anyway, reopening >> it (TM), forcing >> these privileges resulted in the same dialog box, failing to terminate. I >> discovered the "killtask" >> command, to be used in a cmd window. There's no trouble closing an >> instance of JQt at level 903, >> presumably because it's still running; however, J904 processes (qt or >> console) can't be terminated, >> even with admin privileges; it appears that if they're already "suspended", >> nothing further can be >> done, bar rebooting. As their memory is displayed as 32k, I might as well >> live with them staying there! >> >> Re Bill's suggestion: >> >> Can you try start J with an empty profile? eg >> >> jconsole.exe -jprofile >> jqt -jprofile >> >> Both work! The sessions aren't usable as all the startup stuff is missing, >> and it's a long long time since >> I used native J as it was meant to be! >> >> How can I test what is wrong, perhaps in my personal set-up? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mike >> >>> On 21/05/2022 14:45, Mike Day wrote: >>> Apologies for wrong thread! >>> >>> V busy with a concert today, so thanks to you & Bill, but I’ll follow up >>> yr ideas tomorrow >>> Cheers, >>> Mike >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 21 May 2022, at 05:08, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> (switching to general forum, which is hopefully the correct forum for >>>> this kind of content... (also resending -- I thought I sent this >>>> earlier but now it looks like it was not sent.)) >>>> >>>> If you are getting the message "Unable to terminate process - The >>>> operation could not be completed. Access is denied" from task manager >>>> or process explorer, likely you need administrative privileges to >>>> terminate that process. >>>> >>>> If you are using process explorer, you can ask it to restart itself >>>> with administrative privileges by selecting the menu option: File > >>>> Show Details for All Processes. >>>> >>>> (But, I have not yet tried windows 11. I'm sort of waiting for things >>>> to settle down a bit more, before I try it.) >>>> >>>> I hope this helps, >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Raul >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 5:05 PM 'Michael Day' via Programming >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. The upgrade was easy, but the result is unfortunate, at >>>>> least on this laptop running Windows 11. >>>>> >>>>> Attempting to open any of Jqt, JHS, Jconsole does establish a new >>>>> instance of >>>>> jqt.exe or jconsole.exe, according to the details display of Task >>>>> Manager, but it >>>>> immediately shows its status as "suspended." >>>>> >>>>> (Raul MIller recently suggested I use Process Explorer - it shows the same >>>>> information as far as I can see.) >>>>> >>>>> Task Manager refused to terminate these tasks. ("Unable to terminate >>>>> process - >>>>> The operation could not be completed. Access is denied") >>>>> Restarting windows removed them of course. >>>>> >>>>> I had added some stuff to the startup.ijs file, trying to establish >>>>> threads, and >>>>> I wondered whether that was creating a problem given Henry's changed some >>>>> behaviour; After commenting out those operations in the startup, opening >>>>> the exes still results in suspended status. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not aware of having changed the setup in any way other than doing the >>>>> upgrade, until I altered the startup.ijs file, anyway. >>>>> >>>>> It's difficult to give any useful information. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>>> On 20/05/2022 16:06, Eric Iverson wrote: >>>>>> J904-beta-d is available for windows/linux/macos. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you already run J904-beta, then upgrade is easy: >>>>>> load'pacman' >>>>>> 'upgrade'jpkg'jengine' >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have not yet installed J904-beta, time to get started! >>>>>> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/J904 >>>>>> <https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/J903> >>>>>> >>>>>> Release notes: >>>>>> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/ReleaseNotes/J904 >>>>>> <https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/ReleaseNotes/J903> >>>>>> >>>>>> Questions/bug reports/etc. should go to the beta forum. >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
