Eric,

I remembered that - although I'm so used to just using up-arrow
or a cntrl-r pattern lookup to recall lines that the shift (and
no pattern lookups) keeps me in my old/deficient terminal window.
I bask in the fact that many past sessions are included in that
search domain.

And the operative statement in your defense of IDE is "could
easily have a history" -- Lib Gibson's SMOP leaps to mind :)
But again, thanks to your nice facilities in jconsole, that
facility is built in to the terminal interface.

So, thanks for the very good interface that I use and I'll keep
an open mind towards the IDE. For the record, I would be very
upset if the jconsole interface moved towards working more like
the IDE - and will continue to hope for the opposite.

- joey

At 18:56  -0400 2006/06/01, Eric Iverson wrote:
J IDE has line recall (shift+up/dn arrow), a gui list of lines (ctrl+d) and could easily have a history that carried forward over sessions (the list of lines is available data).

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joey K Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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At 11:52  -0400 2006/06/01, Miller, Raul D wrote:
Joey K Tuttle wrote:
 nice? Not in my opinion. I think the confusion between
 treating session history as a live "editor document" is
 at least as strange as the quirks of emacs and vi -- but

That is perhaps a tautology.

Emacs treates session history as a live "editor document".

Yes, I suppose you are right if using emacs as an IDE -
my preference and normal environment is an old fashioned
terminal - maybe it is just the comfort of familiarity, but
I find the line recall and stored history a useful adjunct
to the immutable terminal session/scroll memory. I don't
normally invoke j while in a script editor (i use vi), but
rather use the saved script in the terminal window - this
seems rather similar to suggested use of ijx vs ijs windows,
but in my case the executable window isn't editable (and
I like/appreciate that)...

- joey

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