Yes. That and minimizing differences between the production and development environments. I hate to have to rerun all tests after building. I think that this is one of the issues that is being addressed in the J7 project tool. It is going to be interesting how this will work between the GDK and JFE environments.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Sherlock, Ric <[email protected]>wrote: > I agree that general utilities from the J libraries & addons should be > referenced where possible rather than copied from application to > application. The section heading "Utils" I used in the example was meant for > application-specific utility functions. Is that the point you were making? > > > From: Don Guinn > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 June 2010 23:34 > > > > Utility scripts used in several applications would not be appropriate > > to be part of this big file. > > That would include scripts from the J libraries and > > addons as well as those built by the user. So a build is still needed; > > however, to me, minimizing the differences between the test and > > production environments is desirable. > > > 2010/6/1 Sherlock, Ric <[email protected]> > > > > > > From: bill lam > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:43 > > > > > > > > Втр, 01 Июн 2010, Sherlock Ric писал(а): > > > > > example the start of a section could be indicated by: > > > > ile. big f> > > > > > NB.# Initialize > > > > > > > > > > If it is desirable to explicitly close sections (can't think why > > > > > though), maybe the following syntax would be better: > > > > > > > > > > NB.( Utils > > > > > > > > > > NB.) > > > > > > > > > > For now Sections could be supported by the IDE as a tab in the > > > > > Sidebar much like the current "defs" tab. Or perhaps the idea of > > > > > Sections could be integrated with "defs" so that defs are shown > > > > > within Sections. Eventually/Potentially (when/if the code folding > > > > > support for gtksourceview gets released), the syntax highlighter > > > > > could also support the sections with code folding. > > > > > > > > I don't know gtksourceview folding. However in vim it is possible > > to > > > > fold by markers, default markers are {{{ and }}}. Eg. it is > > possible > > > > to include comments to define a fold > > > ... > > > > By asking project manager not to remove comment lines and then > > these > > > > markers will be preserved inside the script built. Not sure if > > this > > > > is what you wanted. > > > > > > From your comments I'm not quite sure that I've explained the idea > > very > > > clearly. Yes the vim behaviour is similar to what I'm suggesting, but > > > obviously my suggestions are for the new gtkide beta. I'm actually > > > suggesting that making multiple small source files (that get > > built/catenated > > > together by a build process) wouldn't be necessary if it were easier > > to > > > navigate a large script by supporting sections/chapters in the ide. > > > > > > As Don suggests the name "build" would potentially become less > > appropriate, > > > but there would still be a role for a post-processing script (e.g. > > copying > > > to (multiple) publish locations, removing comments, locking scripts). > > Maybe > > > "Publish" or "Deploy" would become a more accurate name. > > > > > > However even if this suggestion were implemented, it would be > > desirable to > > > leave the current build mechanism until the suggestion was proven. > > There may > > > be other benefits to having small source files that I'm missing? > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
