My recollection is  Mac 10.3.9 does not have a standard installed fixed
pitch font with boxdraw that works.

You could poke around in something like textedit and try out the various
fixed fonts, but am pretty sure you won't find one that works.

You're stuck with finding and installing a font (there might be archive info
on this) or making do with +-|.

As has been pointed out the jhs utility doesn't work because of a name
change. BOXES should be Boxes.


On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> MN> In JHS, the output of     < i. 2 3   has misaligned box characters.
>
> RS> Altering the current JHS CSS font-family setting to add another
> RS> alternative font before "monospace" might be worthwhile if this affects
> RS> enough users and there is a common font on these systems that does work
> RS> ok.
>
> That's why I'm reporting this.
>
> Unfortunately, I have little clue about font issues (I'm usually a
> console guy) or on CSS.  If somebody can explain to me how I can
> check how the sequence '"Courier new", "Courier", "monospaced"'
> gets resolved into font file, we could say if the misalignment is
> from a standard system font or some locally added font.  (I doubt
> the latter, though.  I inherited the mac-mini from my company which
> doesn't knowingly install additional fonts (we do system stuff, not
> layout/design work) and I checked four browsers which should all
> be at their defaults.  One of this Mac's jobs *was* to proof-read
> web page layouts.  But one never knows and I'll happily research
> this further.)
>
> When the betas are done, the released version should certainly
> get this font right.  Two reasons:
>
> (1)  I don't have Mac running right now to check for the exact wording,
>     but wasn't one of the very reasons for JHS to "enable front-ends
>     based on proven/ubiqitous/standardized technologies such as CCS/[...]"?
>     If JHS itself can't come up with a solution to elicit a usable
>     font, this promise is nothing more than empty marketing.
>
> (2)  The J6 java IDE on linuxen was actively deterring potential
>     new J developers by presenting itself as, I am sorry to say,
>     obviously crappy right on the initial startup after the download
>     and installation:
>
>        (a) On two occasions, the initial Welcome! dialog with a
>            mis-computed geometry so that the buttom part with the
>            "Never show this again" checkbox and "Exit to J session"
>            button was neither shown nor, of course, clickable.
>            No way to get rid of the box or start with the session.
>            "Epic fail."
>
>        (b) Non-ICCCM-compliance, ie., would only work with a few
>            X11 window managers nicely.
>
>     I *tried* to bring Linux users to J.  Difficult with such a system.
>     Every (smart) Linuxer/Unixer ranks portability very high and is turned
>     off by software which fails in this respect like J6 did.  I draw many
>     weird looks.  I'd like J7 to be better.
>
> The J6 console used graphical boxes which unfortunately caused xterms to
> freeze when not set to UTF8 (still quite common over here because so much
> here still depends on iso-8859-1/15).  Silly as that may be, those hangs
> are essentially impossible to analyze for a J newbie.  I'm very glad that
> J7 returned to fail-safe ascii boxes as the default for the jconsole.
>
> Perhaps the same should be done for JHS if we can't come up with a
> reliably working font spec?
>
> However this gets resolved, making J newcomers wonder about and
> deal with an output as present in my screenshot is NOT an option.
> (We want more of those, don't we?)
>
>                                                        Martin
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