Thx!
This is pretty good.
I created a local version a file called test71.html
------------------------- test71.html
<html><head><title>xsh</title></head>
<frameset cols="44%,*">
<frame src="http://127.0.0.1:65001/jijx"; name="ijx",
scrolling='auto'>
<frameset rows="77%,*">
<frame src="http://127.0.0.1:65001/jijs"; name="ijs",
scrolling='auto'>
<frame src="http://127.0.0.1:65001/jhelp"; name="jhelp",
scrolling='auto'>
</frameset>
</frameset>
</html>
-------------------
Nice thing is I can change the contents of each frame as needed and the
other info stays unchanged.
It should be easy to put a control of this into a config file.
2010/10/24 greg heil <[email protected]>
> i set up a htm page consisting of an ijx, ijs and help frame from the JUM:
>
> <html><head><title>xsh</title></head>
> <frameset cols="44%,*">
> <frame src="http://www.jsoftware.com:53692/jijx"; name="ijx",
> scrolling='auto'>
> <frameset rows="77%,*">
> <frame src="http://www.jsoftware.com:53692/jijs";
> name="ijs", scrolling='auto'>
> <frame src="http://www.jsoftware.com:53692/jhelp";
> name="jhelp",
> scrolling='auto'>
> </frameset>
> </frameset>
> </html>
>
> The next step is to set the IJS file to be a particular file (o/w the
> system keeps generating a new one). But i cannot find a URL for such a
> file. I can modify any file, but i cannot get the URL for that
> modification...
>
> greg
> ~krsnadas.org
>
> --
>
> from Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
> reply-to Beta forum <[email protected]>
> to Beta forum <[email protected]>
> date 24 October 2010 08:14
> subject Re: [Jbeta] default switching jhs
>
> Finally got some time to test your suggestion here.
>
> Pretty nice!
>
> javascript:window.open(prompt('url'),
> '_blank','status=0,scrollbars=0,location=0,menubar=0')
>
> javascript:window.open("http://www.jsoftware.com";,
> '_blank','status=0,scrollbars=0,location=0,menubar=0')
>
> javascript:window.open("http://www.jsoftware.com","mywindow";)
>
> javascript:window.open("http://127.0.0.1:65001/jhelp";,
> '_blank','status=0,scrollbars=0,location=0,menubar=0')
>
> javascript:window.open("http://127.0.0.1:65001/jijx";,
> '_blank','status=0,scrollbars=0,location=0,menubar=0')
>
> javascript:window.open("http://127.0.0.1:65001/jijx","mywindow";)
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/22 Raul Miller <[email protected]>
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Brian Schott <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > My understanding of browser interfaces is that such tessellation of
> frames/windows is not possible by the end user, but if it is I would like to
> know how, please.
>
> You can have multiple browser windows though. And you can size and
> arrange them as you please.
>
> I think the biggest limitation here is the extra real-estate imposed
> by the browser itself. However, chrome minimizes that, and also it is
> possible to instruct the browser to open a window without decorations
> (using javascript's window.open() method -- though if you are willing
> to use that you also have some other options available to you).
>
> Though, actually, you could make a bookmark and edit. For example, change
> it to:
>
> javascript:window.open(prompt('url'), '_blank',
> 'status=0,scrollbars=0,location=0,menubar=0')
>
> This lets you type in a url and get a window visiting that url with a
> relative minimum of decoration real-estate. You could also make
> multiple bookmarks, replacing the "prompt('url')" with whatever url
> you want (in quotes). Or instead of having the bookmark always spawn a
> new window you could change the second parameter from '_blank' to some
> unique name for that bookmark and the bookmark would then bring the
> named window to the front if it were already open...
>
> FYI,
> ---
> Raul
>
> --
>
> from Alex Rufon <[email protected]>
> to Beta forum <[email protected]>
> date 22 October 2010 07:01
> subject Re: [Jbeta] default switching jhs
>
> Come to think of it ... I also do this a lot. I would normally have
> the IJX, PM and 1 to 3 IJS files open at the same time. You see, I
> sort of put all my global variables and global initialization scripts
> in two different files:
>
> defs.ijs - global variables, sql commands, structures, constants
> init.ijs - initialization scripts
>
> I sort of keep this two files open (particularly defs.ijs) ...
>
> In JHS, can I open scripts in another TAB or another browser window?
> Would that help Brian?
>
> Although I don't have time to look at JHS, I'm looking at java web
> application development and later on integrating J through/as web
> service. I'm currently drowning in reading materials for
>
> VAADIN <http://vaadin.com/home>
> DROOLS <http://www.jboss.org/drools>
> SPRING Framework <http://www.springsource.org/>
>
> My ears are bleeding ... :P
>
> --
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Brian Schott
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:00 PM
> To: Beta forum
> Subject: Re: [Jbeta] default switching jhs
>
> When Bjorn mentioned labs in the context of having frames it finally
> reminded me of how desirable it is to have multiple windows visible at
> once in J. On the Mac I have always been able to reposition and resize
> multiple windows to tessellate them, and that has been most desirable
> with labs and with simulation ogl graphics that are refreshed when
> code lines are entered in the ijx window (Eric has not quite gotten
> that to work for me in the last two revisions, btw).
>
> My understanding of browser interfaces is that such tessellation of
> frames/windows is not possible by the end user, but if it is I would
> like to know how, please.
>
> (B=)
>
> --
>
> from Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
> to Beta forum <[email protected]>
> date 22 October 2010 01:12
> subject Re: [Jbeta] default switching jhs
>
> It is one thing what you can do as a knowledgeable user and send the
> pages into frames, windows or tabs and then another if the jhs is
> clever enough to assist you to separate processes/input/output to
> different widgets.
>
> It would be very nice to take advantage of frames in particular with
> things like the labs and separate the instructions and helps into
> different frames and the user trials into another frame.
>
> So you could in the same window have more than one frame and have them
> interact in intelligent ways.
>
> Instead of going to different windows for each of the links you could
> basically have them all at the same time open in different frames on
> the same window.
>
> The ijs and ijx side by side and then below several frames with demos and
> helps.
>
> I usually do not like popups very much and would rather have a frame
> open up and a popup is more or less a frame lifted out of the window.
>
> The whole idea of getting a browser gui for J - the JHS - is so much
> more powerful by using and utilizing frames.
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/21 Raul Miller <[email protected]>
>
> 2010/10/21 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>:
>
> > You can load pages into frames but then you have a lot of stuff around
> from the page.
>
> If you have just the contents of a script in a frame and send a line
> to be executed and you get the result in another frame where the ijx
> is displaying the output it would be very neat and tidy.
>
> Hypothetically speaking, you can apply styles to the pages to hide
> things you do not want to see?
>
> ---
> Raul
>
> --
>
> from Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
> to Beta forum <[email protected]>
> date 21 October 2010 02:38
> subject Re: [Jbeta] default switching jhs
>
> You can load pages into frames but then you have a lot of stuff around
> from the page.
>
> If you have just the contents of a script in a frame and send a line
> to be executed and you get the result in another frame where the ijx
> is displaying the output it would be very neat and tidy.
>
> In J6 I do this all the time by having the ijs and ijx side by side
> and do the work in the ijs and send individual lines to the ijx and
> thus collecting up lines of input.
>
> If you do the work in the ijx the input gets mixed up with the output.
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/20 Raul Miller <[email protected]>
>
> 2010/10/20 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>:
> > ooops
>
> > I was probably thinking frames and saying forms
>
> Well, you can do that right now, i think?
>
> Just make a page with the right frame urls and load it? (You could
> have this page on your desktop, for example).
>
> ---
> Raul
>
> --
>
> from Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
> to Beta forum <[email protected]>
> date 20 October 2010 00:22
> subject Re: [Jbeta] default switching jhs
>
> I would like to see labs such that the explaining text is in one form
> and the experimental part in another form on the same page.
>
> Same goes for working with ijs and/or inputs in one form the result
> like ijx or plot or something in another sometimes on the same page
> and sometimes in a popup.
>
> In the html tutorial this is explained quite well and you can send or
> open a link in a new window, new tab or you can open the whole page in
> an old form.
>
> It is possible to have all kinds of mix of what you do with outputs
> and inputs and the main point that the menus and helps are often more
> static than the results of operations.
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/20 Eric Iverson <[email protected]>
>
> This could be done. But I'm not sure it is desirable. That is, you
> could make one tab have controls for both ijx and ijs functionality.
> But that seems like mixing apples and oranges.
>
> I find myself increasingly having multiple tabs with ijx. And I almost
> always have more than one ijs tab. Sometimes the tabs are in the same
> window and sometimes they are in different windows. And what about
> external editors?
>
> I think more experience with browser tabs and windows is going to be
> enlightening.
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/19 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
>
> I would like to have ijs in one form on a page and the ijx in another
> form on the same page.
>
> Then send lines from the ijs to the ijx
>
> You can get similar setup by having two windows open side by side but
> having several forms on the same page with help texts around is nice.
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/19 Raul Miller <[email protected]>
>
> 2010/10/19 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>:
>
> > What is really worth while thinking about besides using tabs is to use
> forms more.
>
> Then again, simplicity is a virtue.
>
> Then again, to my knowledge, the distinction between a tab and a
> window is not exposed to the web developer.
>
> ---
> Raul
>
> --
>
> from Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
> to Beta forum <[email protected]>
> date 19 October 2010 08:49
> subject Re: [Jbeta] default switching jhs
>
> What is really worth while thinking about besides using tabs is to use
> forms more.
>
> Have the contents of pages in forms and use big pages that can scroll
> off screen.
>
> One thing I do like about chrome is you take a tab and drag it off and
> create a new window and you can also drag it back again and merge it
> with other tabs.
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/19 Eric Iverson <[email protected]>
>
> Most of us have had decades learning the windows desktop paradigm and
> use the browser in fairly simple ways (one page at a time). It is
> going to take time to become adept in the browser world (it is already
> quite rich and changing fast). For example, a serious J user probably
> wouldn't use the link menu at all. Instead ijx,file,ijs would be on
> the bookmark bar. To open a new ijs you'd click the empty tab then
> click the ijs bookmark.
>
> The demos don't yet reflect new ways of thinking about apps on the
> browser. The navigation will improve.
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/19 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
>
> That is not a big thing really because it is easily done with the
> right mouse clicks.
>
> Another issue is when changing from one place like from ijx to demos
> or to pacman the place for links is sometimes on top and like in the
> demos the links are at the bottom and you need to go first to ijx to
> get the other links from the demos pages
>
> It would be good to always have most of the links at the top.and have
> the drop down similar options.
>
> The demos links should possibly be like the labs links
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/19 Eric Iverson <[email protected]>
>
> The current behavior is browser standard and is fairly standard across
> browsers. That is click follows link on current tab, shift opens new
> tab, ctrl+shift opens new tab and makes it current. My strong feeling
> for jhs is to follow browser standards as closely as possible.
>
> --
>
> 2010/10/19 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
>
> When you want to go to different links in J7 jhs the default behavior
> is to always stay on the same page and change contents for all links.
>
> You can use the right button to chose if you want to open the link in
> a new window or a new tab.
>
> I am inclined to suggest the default behavior to be to open the link
> in a new tab.
>
> Possibly as a config option.
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