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Today's Topics:
1. Re: J701a - GTK Front End Install (chris burke)
2. Re: Icons and Windows (bill lam)
3. Re: J701a - GTK Front End Install (bill lam)
4. Re: how to install gtk+ on Darwin (bill lam)
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:34:13 +0800
From: chris burke <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] J701a - GTK Front End Install
To: Beta forum <[email protected]>
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On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Tikkanz <[email protected]> wrote:
> User or System installs?
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM, chris burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I also just tested Win32 and Win64 from scratch on Win7 and both worked
fine.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Tikkanz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I've successfully installed the new binaries from scratch on:
>>> ?Win7 (Win32 User install)
>>> ?Ubuntu 10.04 (Linux64 System install)
>>>
>>> Gtk IDE working on both systems.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that you were attempting to do a system install and
>>> that the downloaded gtk files weren't able to write to the program
>>> files folder? Can you report JVERSION?
>>> Ric
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Fraser Jackson
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I tried the latest files on Win32 and a machine running Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Szuch's description describes my experience. ?I can no longer
start the
>>>> GTK ide.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly it is changed from an earlier version which did run.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fraser
>>>>
>>>>
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JVERSION
Engine: j701/2011-01-07/14:33
Library: 7.01.030
Platform: Win 64
Installer: j701a_win64.exe
InstallPath: c:/documents and settings/administrator/j64-701
Please note that when I copy an older version of: ide/gtk/gtk.ijs
back into ~addons/ide/gtk I get the GTK to start but very still unstable
as it crashes.
What should be in ~addons/ide/gtk/gtk.ijs
The file I have is appox 1k compared with approx 150k in previous beta
version.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:53:56 +0800
From: bill lam <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] Icons and Windows
To: [email protected]
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jconsole is itself a console program so that I think you need to use
another loader in order to suppress it from task bar. You may try copy
j.exe from j602 to bin folder, and start using a shortcut to run
/path/to/j.exe gtkide
It should run gtkide but not sure if there will be any other issues.
???, 10 ??? 2011, Ric Tikkanz ?????(?):
> Gtk IDE - The title bar of the Term window doesn't really have
> anything to suggest that it is J-related. As a result I find myself
> taking a while to find it amoung the many other windows I have open.
> I'd prefer it to use the green J icon rather than the current monitor.
> Renaming the window "J Term" or "J Terminal" (or "J session" or
> "jijx") would help too.
>
> On Windows will it be possible to start the Gtk IDE without the parent
> Jconsole window appearing?
>
> JHS - The icon used to start the JHS server is red, yet the favicon
> used for the tabs in the browser are blue. It would make sense to me
> for the colours to match.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:07:20 +0800
From: bill lam <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] J701a - GTK Front End Install
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That ide/gtk file you got is the original from fresh j installer as a
placeholder to remind gtk installation. It seems you cannot write files
into ~addons folder from pacman update.
???, 10 ??? 2011, William Szuch ?????(?):
> Unable to start the GTK front end.
>
>
>
> The following was carried:
>
> (1) installed j64-701 using J701a_win64.exe (on Windows XP64 Pro)
>
> (2) from the jconsole downloaded and installed the GTK binaries:
>
>
>
> install 'gtkide'
>
>
>
> This installed the binaries in the directory ../j64-701/gtk
>
> The zip file downloaded in this case was smaller than the previous
> downloaded:
>
>
>
> I think about 24m down to 17.5m
>
> I assume that the help files are now in ~addons/docs
>
>
>
> gtk-demo.exe seems to work but the "info" and "source" buttons are
dormant.
>
>
>
> (3) From the jconsole I then ran:
>
>
>
> load 'gtkide'
>
>
>
> and the following message is displayed:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> jgtk front end is not installed.
>
>
>
> The install downloads required files.
>
>
>
> Windows install (gtk binaries) can take several minutes.
>
>
>
> To install jgtk, run sentence:
>
>
>
> install'gtkide'
>
>
>
> After install, run jgtk with:
>
> Windows: jgtk icon
>
> Linux: command (J folder)/bin/jgtk
>
> Mac: jgtk icon or command (J folder)/bin/jgtk.command
>
> All: jconsole run sentence load'gtkide'
>
> )
>
>
>
> (4) I then looked at the addon:
>
> ide/gtk/gtk.ijs (Version 1.0.29)
>
> which only held the message ie:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> smoutput 0 : 0
>
>
>
> jgtk front end is not installed.
>
>
>
> The install downloads required files.
>
>
>
> Windows install (gtk binaries) can take several minutes.
>
>
>
> To install jgtk, run sentence:
>
>
>
> install'gtkide'
>
>
>
> After install, run jgtk with:
>
> Windows: jgtk icon
>
> Linux: command (J folder)/bin/jgtk
>
> Mac: jgtk icon or command (J folder)/bin/jgtk.command
>
> All: jconsole run sentence load'gtkide'
>
> )
>
>
>
> This file is set to: "gtkide"
>
> Previous versions of the ide/grk/gtk.ijs very different.
>
> Any help appreciated to get GTK FE started and working.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Bill Szuch
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:39:21 +0800
From: bill lam <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] how to install gtk+ on Darwin
To: [email protected]
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There are many gtk themes available and some of them are intended to make it
look like a mac even running on linux. You may google for keywords such as
snow leopard gtk theme
and try which among them is the best.
BTW shortcut keys are also themeable. If cmd key not worked, there should
be a suitable mac keyboard theme.
???, 09 ??? 2011, Charles Turner ?????(?):
> On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:02 AM, bill lam wrote:
>
> > The gtk addons
> > has been updated to fix this issue. Please update and test
>
> OK.
>
> > in particular its difference in look-and-feel compared with native
quartz.
>
> Do you mean between GTK-X11 and GTK-quartz, or between GTK and OSX?
>
> If you mean the latter, even though the jgtk implementation is nice,
certainly better than the Java console, it doesn't come anywhere close to
the look and feel of a Cocoa UI.
>
> Best, Charles
>
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