Philip Meyer;349622 Wrote: 
> Why are you clearly correct - what evidence?

i should have been clearer...

first, all the posts about TPE2 in the forum.  theres a lot of them. 
if you search for it, you'll see a lot of them revolve about how its
used by SC, both b4, and after, 8001.

second, that all the major apps use it and set it.  itunes, wmp,
winamp, etc...  it doesn't matter if users are aware or not, the apps
are.  and itunes just retags and renames and does all kinds of crap
willy nilly.  but even the more respectful apps like winamp use it both
ripping and retagging via gracenote or wherever.

i think if SC aggregates stats, and i think they do, i think you'd find
a significant percentage of mp3 users are already using a feature (8001)
thats extremely new, [7.1]

i'd even be willing to say it should be the default for new installs.

i admit, i am guessing from observed evidence, but i base it off of the
marketplace leader apps and the many posts in the forum about it.  i'd
even guess you use it, (as per 8004, right?)

but i didn't mean to get into a "who's right" thing...  you were
clearly right about 8001 only needing to map to SC's internal
ALBUMARTIST field, and not the BAND field.  while i never said i was
SURE it had to do both, i did suspect it would based on the denoting
option, but for the moment anyway, that isn't the case...  (who knows
what the new schema might break?)

its just that i think you think that its some esoteric thing when to
me, its clearly not.

Philip Meyer;349622 Wrote: 
> I would hazard a guess that there are many users of SC that have never
> looked into music tagging standards, made changes on the settings page
> and rescanned.  I would guess there are many users that have not
> upgraded to SC7, nor know that there is support for TPE2 => Album
> Artist.

if so, then they are lucky to have perfect tags that do what they want,
or itunes integration suffices.  in my case, i ONLY GOT INVOLVED in all
that stuff you just laid out BECAUSE SC was so screwy.

and who knows how many people were in my boat who got turned off by SC
since it had no option pre 7.1?  believe me, i came very close to
saying screw it too, when i couldn't get anyone to listen to my issues
with it, since many here are FLAC or gearheaded and thought the issue
was with me...  (and honestly, i had very little command of the issue
to explain it, it took a lot of time for me to have the knowledge
necessary).

Philip Meyer;349622 Wrote: 
> It would be interesting to run an experiment into different music
> applications/rippers installed with default settings, to see how they
> tag songs when ripping an album that has a guest performer on a single
> track, how such an album would be presented in those apps and in SC,
> and how many users actually care.

its not JUST that instance...  remember, it was ALL my "compilation"
albums whether they were VA or not.  it made a hell of a mess, and it
was only worse if i went by defaults, which showed all artists and
didn't group anything.

but yes, it would be interesting to get a snapshot in time of just what
tags each app is using, and how when ripping, and/or auto-retagging /
renaming files.

one thing i am sure of, MOST mp3 users, BY FAR, are using TPE2 as album
artist in the apps, and NOT as band (which would be by spec).  the
amount of users actually using TPE2 for strictly and purposely for
"band" is probably under 1%

anyway, i appreciate your comments.


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