>> But they aren't extras.  They are built-in functionality.  They have
>> always lived under Settings.
>> 
>...which has always been ridiculous. As you say: they are
>functionality. Why should they be under "Settings", you don't put
>functionality in "Settings", no one does that.
>
I'm not saying I particularly like it, just that that's where it all currently 
is at the moment, and why people already must visit Settings.

>> There isn't an Extras menu any more by default, I think - extras, some
>> internet radio stations and music services have been converted to Apps,
>> and have to be installed to appear instead under My Apps or Home Menu.
>> 
>Nope. Install anything that uses "Extras" and the menu shows up.
>
Like I said, there isn't an Extras menu by default.  It's not there unless you 
enable it (or apparently install something into it - I didn't know that).

>I'm not dogmatic about "Extras", _I_ would do a player features menu
>where all this could live. Along with Sync, Power, Maybe Volume. But
>that's just me.
>Are these also "Settings" in your oppinion? What is different then?
Settings are built-in things, whereas Extras are additional functionality - 
things enabled by the user.
Again, not saying I particularly like it (actually, I haven't got any problems 
with that), just what it currently is.

>> This is not uncommon - iPods put the same functions under Settings too.
>I just checked. None of this under "Settings" on my iPhone. You can't
>sync, Shuffle and Repeat is on NowPlaying, Power has a button, Alarms
>have their own App.
>
I can't speak for iPhone.  I was talking about iPods.  My iPod Nano has a 
Settings menu, which has things such as Repeat, Shuffle, Volume, Brightness, 
and a way to configure the Home menu.  It also has an Extras menu, which holds 
things like "applications" such as Calendar, Games, Contacts.

Curiously very similar to Squeezebox player menus.

One thing I do notice is that iPods has alarms within Extras, rather than 
Settings.

Phil
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