+1 for "Origin" there is object origin and dupligroup Origin - its distinctly different from the view pivot point.
re: ObData, Agree its a silly name but Id be careful removing these terms. So just use "Object Data"? Users might not realize/care that there is a difference between objects and object data starting out, but its important for them to learn eventually. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:28 AM, William Reynish <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > My problem with the word 'pivot' is that the objects origin may or may not be > the pivot point in a transformation, and so referring to the object's (0,0,0) > as the pivot point will often times be incorrect. > > I actually think 'origin' is the best solution discussed so far. Yes, there's > also a scene origin, but there's an origin for any level in the hierarchy. We > could distinguish between the scene and object origins, just by using 'Scene > Origin' and 'Object Origin'. > > Cheers, > > -W > > > On 29 Nov, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Charles Wardlaw wrote: > >> I think that terms like ObData don't help newbies, either. A new >> Blender user won't care about object transform and object data; >> they'll just want to make cool stuff. >> >> "Pivot" is used in other packages-- anyone coming over from Maya, for >> example, would understand immediately. And as far as "origin" goes, if >> I hear it I think of the scene's origin, not the object's. >> >> I think that "Center Pivot" is one of the few things Maya got >> right. :) Blender could add "Center Mesh" and "Pivot to Cursor". >> >> ~ C >> >> >> On 2009-11-28, at 6:26 PM, Samuel Nicholas <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> tbh I dont really like naming discussions, I would people would use >>> correct >>> terms for what things are, and I see that you are trying >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centroid >>> >>> The use of centroid here is incorrect, it sounds cool, but that >>> has no >>> value compared to that of associative knowledge, in other words, you >>> are >>> doing newbies a disservice by teaching them incorrect meanings of >>> words, and >>> confusing knowledgeable people :) >>> >>> some other words I have seen around for this concept are, root, >>> origin, >>> pivot >>> >>> But I think origin best describes the purpose best >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_%28geometry%29 >>> >>> hopefully you will find this clearer. 'centre' in the below >>> description does >>> not take into consideration the centre of mass, but is used instead >>> of the >>> correct term 'centroid' for clearer reading (if i have my meanings >>> right) >>> >>> "ObData to Origin", "Move the object data to the object origin" >>> "Origin to ObData", "Move the object origin to the centre of object >>> data" >>> "Origin to 3D Cursor", "Move the object origin to the position of >>> the 3d >>> cursor" >>> >>> And I apologise for putting my nose in when I am not a developer, I >>> hope the >>> detail in my email mitigates that fact. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Enetheru >>> >>> 2009/11/29 Erwin Coumans <[email protected]> >>> >>>> -1 >>>> >>>> Centroid is not as clear as Object Center. >>>> >>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 4:04, Thomas Dinges <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey William, >>>>> easier to understand? I prefer Center. This is easier to >>>>> understand! ;-) >>>>> >>>>> So -1 on that. >>>>> >>>>> And there is a small typo: >>>>> >>>>> ObData to Centroi"D" >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Thomas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 28.11.2009 12:34, schrieb William Reynish: >>>>>> Revision: 24964 >>>>>> >>>> http://projects.blender.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php?view=rev&root=bf-blender&revision=24964 >>>>>> Author: billrey >>>>>> Date: 2009-11-28 12:34:04 +0100 (Sat, 28 Nov 2009) >>>>>> >>>>>> Log Message: >>>>>> ----------- >>>>>> Rename 'Object Center' to 'Centroid'. This makes the Center/Center >>>>>> Cursor etc popup menu much easier to understand. >>>>>> >>>>>> Modified Paths: >>>>>> -------------- >>>>>> trunk/blender/source/blender/editors/object/object_transform.c >>>>>> >>>>>> Modified: trunk/blender/source/blender/editors/object/ >>>>>> object_transform.c >>>>>> =================================================================== >>>>>> --- trunk/blender/source/blender/editors/object/ >>>>>> object_transform.c 2009-11-28 11:32:09 UTC (rev 24963) >>>>>> +++ trunk/blender/source/blender/editors/object/ >>>>>> object_transform.c 2009-11-28 11:34:04 UTC (rev 24964) >>>>>> @@ -695,9 +695,9 @@ >>>>>> /********************* Set Object Center ************************/ >>>>>> >>>>>> static EnumPropertyItem prop_set_center_types[] = { >>>>>> - {0, "CENTER", 0, "ObData to Center", "Move object data around >>>>>> Object center"}, >>>>>> - {1, "CENTER_NEW", 0, "Center New", "Move Object center to >>>>>> center of object data"}, >>>>>> - {2, "CENTER_CURSOR", 0, "Center Cursor", "Move Object Center >>>>>> to position of the 3d cursor"}, >>>>>> + {0, "CENTER", 0, "ObData to Centroi", "Move object data to >>>>>> Object centroid"}, >>>>>> + {1, "CENTER_NEW", 0, "Centroid to ObData", "Move Object >>>>>> centroid to center of object data"}, >>>>>> + {2, "CENTER_CURSOR", 0, "Centroid to 3D Cursor", "Move Object >>>>>> centroid to position of the 3d cursor"}, >>>>>> {0, NULL, 0, NULL, NULL} >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Bf-blender-cvs mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-blender-cvs >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Bf-committers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bf-committers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bf-committers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >> _______________________________________________ >> Bf-committers mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > > _______________________________________________ > Bf-committers mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > -- - Campbell _______________________________________________ Bf-committers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
