+1 for "Origin" too. Thomas
Am 29.11.2009 12:43, schrieb Campbell Barton: > +1 for "Origin" > there is object origin and dupligroup Origin - its distinctly > different from the view pivot point. > > re: ObData, Agree its a silly name but Id be careful removing these > terms. So just use "Object Data"? > Users might not realize/care that there is a difference between > objects and object data starting out, but its important for them to > learn eventually. > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:28 AM, William Reynish<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> My problem with the word 'pivot' is that the objects origin may or may not >> be the pivot point in a transformation, and so referring to the object's >> (0,0,0) as the pivot point will often times be incorrect. >> >> I actually think 'origin' is the best solution discussed so far. Yes, >> there's also a scene origin, but there's an origin for any level in the >> hierarchy. We could distinguish between the scene and object origins, just >> by using 'Scene Origin' and 'Object Origin'. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -W >> >> >> On 29 Nov, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Charles Wardlaw wrote: >> >> >>> I think that terms like ObData don't help newbies, either. A new >>> Blender user won't care about object transform and object data; >>> they'll just want to make cool stuff. >>> >>> "Pivot" is used in other packages-- anyone coming over from Maya, for >>> example, would understand immediately. And as far as "origin" goes, if >>> I hear it I think of the scene's origin, not the object's. >>> >>> I think that "Center Pivot" is one of the few things Maya got >>> right. :) Blender could add "Center Mesh" and "Pivot to Cursor". >>> >>> ~ C >>> >>> >>> On 2009-11-28, at 6:26 PM, Samuel Nicholas<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> tbh I dont really like naming discussions, I would people would use >>>> correct >>>> terms for what things are, and I see that you are trying >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centroid >>>> >>>> The use of centroid here is incorrect, it sounds cool, but that >>>> has no >>>> value compared to that of associative knowledge, in other words, you >>>> are >>>> doing newbies a disservice by teaching them incorrect meanings of >>>> words, and >>>> confusing knowledgeable people :) >>>> >>>> some other words I have seen around for this concept are, root, >>>> origin, >>>> pivot >>>> >>>> But I think origin best describes the purpose best >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_%28geometry%29 >>>> >>>> hopefully you will find this clearer. 'centre' in the below >>>> description does >>>> not take into consideration the centre of mass, but is used instead >>>> of the >>>> correct term 'centroid' for clearer reading (if i have my meanings >>>> right) >>>> >>>> "ObData to Origin", "Move the object data to the object origin" >>>> "Origin to ObData", "Move the object origin to the centre of object >>>> data" >>>> "Origin to 3D Cursor", "Move the object origin to the position of >>>> the 3d >>>> cursor" >>>> >>>> And I apologise for putting my nose in when I am not a developer, I >>>> hope the >>>> detail in my email mitigates that fact. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Enetheru >>>> >>>> 2009/11/29 Erwin Coumans<[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -1 >>>>> >>>>> Centroid is not as clear as Object Center. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 4:04, Thomas Dinges<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hey William, >>>>>> easier to understand? I prefer Center. This is easier to >>>>>> understand! ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> So -1 on that. >>>>>> >>>>>> And there is a small typo: >>>>>> >>>>>> ObData to Centroi"D" >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Thomas >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 28.11.2009 12:34, schrieb William Reynish: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Revision: 24964 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://projects.blender.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php?view=rev&root=bf-blender&revision=24964 >>>>> >>>>>>> Author: billrey >>>>>>> Date: 2009-11-28 12:34:04 +0100 (Sat, 28 Nov 2009) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Log Message: >>>>>>> ----------- >>>>>>> Rename 'Object Center' to 'Centroid'. This makes the Center/Center >>>>>>> Cursor etc popup menu much easier to understand. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Modified Paths: >>>>>>> -------------- >>>>>>> trunk/blender/source/blender/editors/object/object_transform.c >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Modified: trunk/blender/source/blender/editors/object/ >>>>>>> object_transform.c >>>>>>> =================================================================== >>>>>>> --- trunk/blender/source/blender/editors/object/ >>>>>>> object_transform.c 2009-11-28 11:32:09 UTC (rev 24963) >>>>>>> +++ trunk/blender/source/blender/editors/object/ >>>>>>> object_transform.c 2009-11-28 11:34:04 UTC (rev 24964) >>>>>>> @@ -695,9 +695,9 @@ >>>>>>> /********************* Set Object Center ************************/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> static EnumPropertyItem prop_set_center_types[] = { >>>>>>> - {0, "CENTER", 0, "ObData to Center", "Move object data around >>>>>>> Object center"}, >>>>>>> - {1, "CENTER_NEW", 0, "Center New", "Move Object center to >>>>>>> center of object data"}, >>>>>>> - {2, "CENTER_CURSOR", 0, "Center Cursor", "Move Object Center >>>>>>> to position of the 3d cursor"}, >>>>>>> + {0, "CENTER", 0, "ObData to Centroi", "Move object data to >>>>>>> Object centroid"}, >>>>>>> + {1, "CENTER_NEW", 0, "Centroid to ObData", "Move Object >>>>>>> centroid to center of object data"}, >>>>>>> + {2, "CENTER_CURSOR", 0, "Centroid to 3D Cursor", "Move Object >>>>>>> centroid to position of the 3d cursor"}, >>>>>>> {0, NULL, 0, NULL, NULL} >>>>>>> }; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Bf-blender-cvs mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-blender-cvs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Bf-committers mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Bf-committers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bf-committers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bf-committers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bf-committers mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ Bf-committers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
