Oh that's even better returns than BGG! People are going to snap up that 
deal, Grog!

On Saturday, 31 March 2012 11:31:06 UTC+8, GROGnads wrote:
>
> While 'moi' were NAUGHT the slightest bit 'greedy', then I'll take you 
> UP on this generous proffer of YOURS, with give 'moi' $2 for a "GG"! 
>
> On Mar 30, 8:27 pm, Mohrlock <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > If you donate to MY Paypal then I give a much better return of $s to GGs 
> :P 
> > 
> > On Saturday, 31 March 2012 11:23:26 UTC+8, GROGnads wrote: 
> > 
> > > You could have put their Pay-Pal LINK within here for them others and 
> > > maybe offer these TWICE the "GG"s on their RETURN once BGG were such & 
> > > up & running some more? GIVE them an incentive at that at least! 
> > 
> > > On Mar 30, 8:02 pm, chaddyboy_2000 <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > > > There's a concerted fund drive every December... pretty tough to 
> miss 
> > > > as there's a thermometer-style donation bar across the top of the 
> > > > screen during the drive! 
> > 
> > > > On Mar 30, 9:19 pm, Mohrlock <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> > > > > Wow! That's a big work load! Ever thought to run a fund-drive to 
> help 
> > > get 
> > > > > to the levels of lower maintenance/no maintenance time on your 
> > > servers? 
> > 
> > > > > We all try to donate when we can afford to but I'm sure if you ran 
> a 
> > > > > concerted fund raiser it would do very well! Even with no gain to 
> your 
> > > > > forum users aside from a smoother-running site - though everyone 
> likes 
> > > a 
> > > > > Microbadge for their efforts *wink wink* 
> > 
> > > > > Just a thought, I'm sure it's crossed your minds previously 
> anyways. 
> > 
> > > > > On Saturday, 31 March 2012 08:25:43 UTC+8, dakarp wrote: 
> > 
> > > > > > BGG runs on a shoestring budget, and can't afford the sort of 
> > > hardware 
> > > > > > that would allow for continuous service during maintenance. 
> > 
> > > > > > Today there are several things going on. First, one of our 
> MongoDB 
> > > > > > (database) servers, sackson, is being replaced with a new 
> system. 
> > >  The 
> > > > > > goal was to transfer the database to the new server AND pull the 
> old 
> > > > > > system from the rack on the same trip. (BGG has only one rack of 
> > > > > > servers, and it is full--any time we install a new server, we 
> have 
> > > to 
> > > > > > remove an old one.) In order to do so, we needed to make a full 
> > > backup 
> > > > > > of the database while the site is down--if it were up, we would 
> be 
> > > > > > constantly writing to the database.  That full backup alone 
> takes a 
> > > > > > long time--a couple of hours, I believe. So we shut down the 
> system 
> > > > > > and started the backup before Aldie headed to the server room. 
> > 
> > > > > > Another reason for the trip was that one of the hard drives had 
> > > failed 
> > > > > > on our main file server. In order to replace that, we again made 
> a 
> > > > > > full backup before shutting it down.  That backup took longer 
> than 
> > > > > > expected. 
> > 
> > > > > > An additional purpose of the trip was to increase the hard drive 
> > > > > > capacity in three of our systems.  This meant swapping out about 
> 20 
> > > > > > hard drives, and this also apparently did not go as smoothly as 
> we 
> > > > > > would like. 
> > 
> > > > > > Finally, two additional servers were installed. 
> > 
> > > > > > As you can see, there was a lot going on in this maintenance 
> trip. 
> > > If 
> > > > > > we could afford to pay someone to be in charge of our hardware, 
> and 
> > > if 
> > > > > > we could afford more redundancy in our servers, we could 
> certainly 
> > > do 
> > > > > > our maintenance with less downtime.  Considering our resources, 
> > > > > > though, I think we do OK. 
> > 
> > > > > > -Daniel 
> > 
> > > > > > On Mar 30, 6:45 pm, Tiago R² <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote: 
> > > > > > > Same question here. It's been down for almost 5 hours now. 
> > > > > > > Any explanation for the downtime? I work with webdevelopment, 
> and 
> > > > > > > regular maintenance rarely takes more than an hour, in my 
> > > experience. 
> > 
> > > > > > > On 30 mar, 18:38, crsluggo <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have a time frame for when BGG will be up again? 
> > On Saturday, 31 March 2012 11:23:26 UTC+8, GROGnads wrote: 
> > 
> > > You could have put their Pay-Pal LINK within here for them others and 
> > > maybe offer these TWICE the "GG"s on their RETURN once BGG were such & 
> > > up & running some more? GIVE them an incentive at that at least! 
> > 
> > > On Mar 30, 8:02 pm, chaddyboy_2000 <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > > > There's a concerted fund drive every December... pretty tough to 
> miss 
> > > > as there's a thermometer-style donation bar across the top of the 
> > > > screen during the drive! 
> > 
> > > > On Mar 30, 9:19 pm, Mohrlock <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> > > > > Wow! That's a big work load! Ever thought to run a fund-drive to 
> help 
> > > get 
> > > > > to the levels of lower maintenance/no maintenance time on your 
> > > servers? 
> > 
> > > > > We all try to donate when we can afford to but I'm sure if you ran 
> a 
> > > > > concerted fund raiser it would do very well! Even with no gain to 
> your 
> > > > > forum users aside from a smoother-running site - though everyone 
> likes 
> > > a 
> > > > > Microbadge for their efforts *wink wink* 
> > 
> > > > > Just a thought, I'm sure it's crossed your minds previously 
> anyways. 
> > 
> > > > > On Saturday, 31 March 2012 08:25:43 UTC+8, dakarp wrote: 
> > 
> > > > > > BGG runs on a shoestring budget, and can't afford the sort of 
> > > hardware 
> > > > > > that would allow for continuous service during maintenance. 
> > 
> > > > > > Today there are several things going on. First, one of our 
> MongoDB 
> > > > > > (database) servers, sackson, is being replaced with a new 
> system. 
> > >  The 
> > > > > > goal was to transfer the database to the new server AND pull the 
> old 
> > > > > > system from the rack on the same trip. (BGG has only one rack of 
> > > > > > servers, and it is full--any time we install a new server, we 
> have 
> > > to 
> > > > > > remove an old one.) In order to do so, we needed to make a full 
> > > backup 
> > > > > > of the database while the site is down--if it were up, we would 
> be 
> > > > > > constantly writing to the database.  That full backup alone 
> takes a 
> > > > > > long time--a couple of hours, I believe. So we shut down the 
> system 
> > > > > > and started the backup before Aldie headed to the server room. 
> > 
> > > > > > Another reason for the trip was that one of the hard drives had 
> > > failed 
> > > > > > on our main file server. In order to replace that, we again made 
> a 
> > > > > > full backup before shutting it down.  That backup took longer 
> than 
> > > > > > expected. 
> > 
> > > > > > An additional purpose of the trip was to increase the hard drive 
> > > > > > capacity in three of our systems.  This meant swapping out about 
> 20 
> > > > > > hard drives, and this also apparently did not go as smoothly as 
> we 
> > > > > > would like. 
> > 
> > > > > > Finally, two additional servers were installed. 
> > 
> > > > > > As you can see, there was a lot going on in this maintenance 
> trip. 
> > > If 
> > > > > > we could afford to pay someone to be in charge of our hardware, 
> and 
> > > if 
> > > > > > we could afford more redundancy in our servers, we could 
> certainly 
> > > do 
> > > > > > our maintenance with less downtime.  Considering our resources, 
> > > > > > though, I think we do OK. 
> > 
> > > > > > -Daniel 
> > 
> > > > > > On Mar 30, 6:45 pm, Tiago R² <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote: 
> > > > > > > Same question here. It's been down for almost 5 hours now. 
> > > > > > > Any explanation for the downtime? I work with webdevelopment, 
> and 
> > > > > > > regular maintenance rarely takes more than an hour, in my 
> > > experience. 
> > 
> > > > > > > On 30 mar, 18:38, crsluggo <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have a time frame for when BGG will be up again?

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