On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:41, Michael McCracken wrote:

> On 10/3/07, Adam R. Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I see.  I was expecting it to be a history list.  I use the web  
>> import (where I assume some of this is from) about once a year, so  
>> this UI is basically new to me.
>
> We should probably have a history list in here, too, since WebKit can
> keep track of it for us easily. Maybe just as a button-menu under the
> back/forward buttons?

Just having bookmarks would be fine with me, actually.  I can't figure  
out how to add a bookmark, though!  No button, nothing on the context  
menu for the web frame...not on the group/action context menu, and I  
didn't see it on the main menu either.  There's a "Bookmarks" option  
on the Window menu, but that doesn't seem to affect the combo box.  Am  
I blind?  UTSL WFM, but not for everyone.

> About the web import, I don't quite know how, but I think we should
> merge the two web-related features eventually. I suggest that we make
> the web group view the default way of browsing from BibDesk (it's lots
> more visible and obvious), then allow users to do their own scraping
> using the existing import from web UI if they want to, if the scrapers
> don't find anything...

I think it's definitely more obvious, and I prefer it to the sheet.   
I'm uncertain about the view arrangement, though.  All three of the  
panes seem necessary, but they're pretty squished on my PowerBook.   
For reading a list of pubs, I find a paragraph-type layout easier than  
table columns, but the table is essential for navigating.

One idea I had is replacing the detail view with a single table  
column, maybe on the right side of the window.  It would use a tall  
custom cell to display textual "thumbnails" of each item, something  
like this:

-------------
| Title     |
| Authors   |
| Container |
| Date      |
-------------

maybe even with bold/italics.  That gives the webview more room, and  
maybe a more web-browser-ish feeling.

I guess the real problem is that my usual table column setup is ill- 
suited to the display I want for scanning references to see if I want  
to import them.  The keywords, file order, URL, rating, read, printed  
fields are meaningless for web groups, and I'd rather see the  
untruncated title and full author list.  And click a button to trigger  
Alex's SFX OpenURL script for interesting references :).

Anyway, just some thoughts.  I was using the google scholar web group  
for Real Work today, and trying to figure out how to make my task  
easier.

> Maybe the thing to do would be to have an 'create new item' action -
> as a button somewhere and a web-contextual menu item, that causes the
> right-side table from the web import sheet to slide in from the right
> of the main screen, and lets you build a new item and add it to the
> web group (or directly to the doc) without leaving the window or
> opening a sheet...
>
> What do you guys think?

That sounds cool to me.  I've always stuck with my familiar web  
browser instead of browsing in BD, though (mainly because the sites I  
frequent have RIS export), so my opinion isn't worth much.

-- 
adam


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