On 9/12/07, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12 Sep 2007, at 6:10 PM, Chris Goedde wrote: > > > On Sep 12, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > > >> > >> Okay, using a document-relative path certainly makes sense in that > >> situation. The question then becomes: should we keep this > >> behavior, or break it now? (By break, I mean use home-relative > >> instead of document-relative paths). Opinions from the users? > >> What's easier for people to deal with? I think Mike may be > >> responsible for the original implementation, so maybe he has > >> comments. > > > > From my perspective, home-relative is much better than bib-relative. > > I store my master bib file where tex wants it, in ~/Library/texmf/ > > bibtex/bib. I certainly don't want my pdfs there, so a bib-relative > > path would just be walking back up the hierarchy and then down into a > > folder inside Documents. In that case it makes more sense to me to > > just start from ~ . > > > > I wouldn't like to use relative paths as home-relatives. If we want > to support home-relative paths we should save those using tilde. I > think relative paths should be either document-relative or papers > folder-relative. So I think the latter would actually be better, as > it would also solve your problem. > > > In looking at the current preferences, I'm a little confused about > > this discussion. Under "AutoFile Preferences" it seems that I can > > choose either between a "Papers folder location" or "Use relative > > path for Local-Url". A couple comments. First, shouldn't these two > > choices really be radio buttons rather than checkboxes because you > > only have an either-or choice? (At first, I was confused why the "Use > > relative path for Local-Url" was greyed out.) Actually, I see that > > they can both be unchecked, which seems a little strange. In that > > case, the preview window shows ~/blah.pdf as the location. Isn't that > > really a subcategory of "Papers folder location"? Do any users > > actually uncheck both those boxes? > > > > I don't understand this confusion. If it were radio buttons, indeed I > could understand it, that's why they're not radio buttons. It's not > either-or. The "use relative path" is additional (you can choose the > doc location as the current papers folder, and use absolute paths.). > It's just that we currently do not allow relative paths for auto-file > when you have a papers folder, as that would not really make sense. > Note that the preview is nothing more than a preview. It always shows > the tilde-abbreviated path, not the actual value of the Local-Url field. > > > Second, why not just make "Papers folder location" always be relative > > to ~ (rather than an absolute path) and keep the "Use relative path > > for Local-Url" relative to the current document? Wouldn't that solve > > the current problem while keeping backwards compatibility? Obviously, > > I'm missing something here ... > > > > It's not really relevant whether the papers folder path is relative. > It's only relevant where we put the files and what path is used in > the Local-Url field. We do a lot of resolving for the paths, so > relative or not, the pappers folder is always resolved to a full path > during the auto-file process. > > > Lastly, if I uncheck "Papers folder location", BibDesk forgets the > > current location, and I have to relocate it when I check the box > > again. It would be very nice if BibDesk remembered that location even > > if the button is unchecked. > > > > -- > > Chris > > > > Unchecking means setting the papers folder to the empty string. This > indicates that auto-file should use the document location. There is > no separate pref for check/uncheck of this button, so there is no way > to remember it.
For what it's worth, the checkbox for 'Papers folder location' seems a little confusing to me. The tooltips are much clearer, and it'd be best if the information in the tooltip could be made obvious in the control text - that you're choosing between filing in a single location or relative to the document. Perhaps the current 'papers folder location' setting should include a radio button to choose between 'file papers relative to document' and 'file papers in fixed location': (*) File papers in fixed location: [________] (Choose…) ( ) File papers relative to each document. -- Michael McCracken UCSD CSE PhD Candidate research: http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/~mmccrack/ misc: http://michael-mccracken.net/wp/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
