On 12 Sep 2007, at 7:04 PM, Chris Goedde wrote:
> On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
>
>>
>> I wouldn't like to use relative paths as home-relatives. If we want
>> to support home-relative paths we should save those using tilde. I
>> think relative paths should be either document-relative or papers
>> folder-relative. So I think the latter would actually be better, as
>> it would also solve your problem.
>
> I'm not quite sure what you're saying here, partly because I don't
> understand how BibDesk works (and maybe some other things) very well.
> All I'm trying to say is that I think that (to pull something from
> one of my bib files)
>
I basically mean: "~/path/to/a/file" is relative to Home, and "path/
to/a/file" is relative to the current base folder. Now the
interpretation of what "base folder" means is to be determined, but I
wouldn't say it should mean Home, I would rather say Papers Folder
(currently it means document folder).
> Local-Url = {file://localhost/Users/goedde/Documents/Work/Research/
> Papers/AJP64p4375.pdf}
>
> should be
>
> Local-Url = {file://~/Documents/Work/Research/Papers/AJP64p4375.pdf}
>
That wouldn't work, as it is an invalid URL. It's either a relative
or tilde-abbreviated path, or a full URL. (Also, the field is called
Local-Url, not Local-Path).
> (or whatever the right syntax is).
>
>> I don't understand this confusion.
>
> I believe that :-). But I'm still confused.
>
>> If it were radio buttons, indeed I
>> could understand it, that's why they're not radio buttons. It's not
>> either-or. The "use relative path" is additional (you can choose the
>> doc location as the current papers folder, and use absolute paths.).
>> It's just that we currently do not allow relative paths for auto-file
>> when you have a papers folder, as that would not really make sense.
>> Note that the preview is nothing more than a preview. It always shows
>> the tilde-abbreviated path, not the actual value of the Local-Url
>> field.
>
> I don't understand how "Use relative path" can be "additional",
> because it is greyed out if "Paper folders location" is checked. So
> it's an alternative to "Paper folders location"---you can't ever have
> both checked. (If option B is additional to option A, that would seem
> to imply that I can pick B in addition to A, no?) Also, that you can
> have both unchecked seems very odd to me. Isn't there still a
> location to autofile papers if both boxes are unchecked?
>
"Use relative path" means that the *field value* is a relative path.
The first checkbox and the papers folder location only determines
*where the file is put*, not the format of the Local-Url field (as
relative or absolute path).
> I don't really mean to argue, I'm just trying to explain how the
> current preference pain [:-)] appears to this particular user.
>
> I like Mike McCraken's suggestion; that makes sense to me. If a fixed
> location is chosen, then storing the Local-Url using ~ rather than
> the absolute path (as seems to be the case now) would also be good. I
> haven't gotten bitten by the two-machine problem, because I happen to
> use the same short name on both machines that I use BibDesk on.
>
> --
> Chris
I've just made the change suggested by Mike. That should make it a
bit more clear.
Currently by default the full URL is saved, unless you check the "Use
relative path" button.
Christiaan
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