On 18 Mar 2008, at 11:32 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: >> >> On 18 Mar 2008, at 11:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 18 Mar 2008, at 8:49 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Peter Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Your specific case can partially be achieved with %P, see >>>>>> [^1]. As >>>>>> far as I know there is no if/then operator (and I think no >>>>>> plans to >>>>>> add one). >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] <http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_90.html#SEC157 >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, %p is already in usage -- therefore it seems I have only the >>>>> problems with organization-only texts ;) >>>>> >>>>> I have to reformulate: Please add "or organization" to %P or %p >>>>> >>>>> Niels >>>>> >>>> >>>> Orgnaization is not a person, so that would be impossible. For the >>>> rest, there will not be a generic if-then format. >>> >>> In most countries most organizations are legal persons if the >>> definition of anything in %p has to be a person and this is the only >>> reason not to include it. >>> >>> Niels >>> >> >> I'm not talking about the real world, I'm talking about bibtex ;-) > > But even in the bst-styles I encountered you find a "author or editor > or organization" (iirc sometimes organization is replaced by key for > sorting) because with a paper from an organization (where the author > is the organization and no "person") you would end up with no name in > the author in bibliographies. Especially with works form governments > you have no authors or editors but just the ministry. > In the auto-generation I have then always to create a cite-key by hand > and the folder-structure gets "messed" up > > Niels
And now that we've gone through all the hassle I found out they have released a Leopard compatible update of AppleGlot <http://developer.apple.com/internationalization/download/ >. Christiaan > > >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Niels Kobschaetzki >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have sometimes the problem that I have some work that is >>>>>>> from an >>>>>>> organization w/out any author. While I am able to put in the >>>>>>> organization it would be great that if a cite-key is auto- >>>>>>> generated or >>>>>>> a file auto-filed that there are options for an "if/then"- >>>>>>> operator. >>>>>>> Something like: If there are no authors, try to use the editors- >>>>>>> field, >>>>>>> if there aren't authors or editors use the organization field >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> cite-key and the auto-filing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Niels >>> >> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bibdesk-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bibdesk-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
