On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:59 PM, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: > > On Tue 11-Aug-09, at 7:19 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> >> On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:50 PM, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: >> >>>> >>>> On Aug 10, 2009, at 6:23 PM, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks. That is a pity since meta-tags are becoming increasingly >>>>> popular and it would have been nice to be able to use them. >>>> >>>> What meta tags are you speaking of? The OpenMeta stuff? >>>> >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03711.html >>>> >>> >>> Yes, those tags. Also spotlight comments. Many programs (e.g., >>> Pages, >>> EagleFiler) that organize and manage publications and information >>> make >>> use of them. I think it would be good for BibDesk to make use of >>> them >>> as well. At a minimum, I wonder if it would be possible to have an >>> option to import them as keywords that is part of the BibDesk data >>> model. >> >> That's really something that should be done with AppleScript, >> certainly not automatically. I also don't want to add a pref or >> action >> for it, it does not make the threshold. You can always copy/paste >> them. Apart from that it's still not clear to me what support there >> should be. There already was some discussion about this on this list, >> and I never got a good proposal what it is that BD should be doing. >> BTW, spotlight comments are accessible in AppleScript through Finder. >> >> Christiaan >> > > Whether the pref or action to support what I suggested makes the > threshold is something for the developers to decide. I happen to think > that support for tags or at least spotlight comments should be native > to Bibdesk, but that is my personal view.
They're not really open formats. Even though the openmeta seems to be open, it actually is based on private implementation details that Apple has not made public. > For me the issue is very > straightforward (I don't mean to suggest that the implementation is > simple or straightforward, I don't know that): BibDesk uses keywords > to organize papers into possible collections. That's part of the bibtex data. The meta tags are not part of the data. > If you assign keywords, > then you can quickly see the citations that have a particular keyword > assigned to them. Other information management systems such as Papers > and EagleFiler use metatags and spotlight comments for these. If there > was a way to easily copy the metatags into keywords, that would make > it much easier for the systems to work together -- each is good in its > own way. > > ==Tamer It's also a matter of: why this, and not loads of other stuff you could think of? Just do everything will get you swamped, which is bad design. BibDesk has already too many specialized stuff rather than too little, so the bar gets pretty high. I still am not convinced OpenMeta tags are really that special, also because they're a hack by design. Also note that there's no 1-to-1 correspondence to items and files, which also weakens the link. As I said, you can copy the tags from the notes window for the files, or using AppleScript. Christiaan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
