On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 18:55, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Ok. An I guess DeTeXifying means removing those commands without
>>>> affecting the output while TeXifying is converting those commands into
>>>> their RTF equivalent. i.e.:
>>>> {\'e}  -- DeTeX -->  e
>>>> {\'e}  -- TeX --> é
>>>> Is that right?
>>>
>>> That's correct.
>
> Sorry, that's NOT correct.
>
> DeTeX: {\'e}  -> é
> TeX: é -> {\'e}

OK, that makes more sense indeed.

> They're not the same at all, they don't even overlap, certainly not in this 
> particular example. The first gives "é", the second "\'e". In general, 
> stringByRemovingTeX removes TeX commands and curly braces, while 
> stringByDeTeXifyingString converts TeX accents and TeX specials to 
> accented/special characters.

Thanks to the new explanation. I understand now that they are
completely different indeed. It was the previous explanation that
confused me.

> Values you get through the "fields" key in a template are already DeTeXified. 
> We use stringByRemovingTeX for display values of strings like the title in 
> the main table as well as in the default RTF template.

So I don't need <$fields.Title.stringByDeTeXifyingString/> for
example, <$fields.Title/> is enough. Is that right?
Now, even with fields. (or with .stringByDeTeXifyingString) there is
some TeX left (because, as you say, you would not want to build a
complete TeX parser). Now, if I do:
   <$fields.Title.stringByRemovingTeX/>
Is the title is *first* filtered to convert known tex values into
unicode and *then* the remaining tex is removed, or is all tex removed
before having a chance to be converted?

> I know, but with RTF it is not possible to do exactly what you want, because 
> there's no way to pass an extra argument (the URL or displayed string) to a 
> template key. What I said is the closest you can get.

OK. I'll just use .linkedText and be happy with it in RTF then. But
overall, I think I'll move to HTML.

I know nothing of the implementation of course, but I imagined that
the RTF file was going through a parser of some sort which replaced
the <$???/> bits by the appropriate values of the fields. I was
thinking that maybe this parser could be made to also replace those
strings within a HYPERLINK construct (where they are delimited by %3C
and %3E). This way, all imaginable link would be possible, as they are
in HTML. One would only have to create the link manually in the RTF
editor (rather than have the templating system create it for him with
.linkedText).

> Also, for HTML you should <$urls.Doi/> for the linked URL, not 
> http://dx.doi.org/<$fields.Doi/>, because we do some more validation and 
> cleaning that you may otherwise not get.

OK. I'll correct that.

> If you use some value as part of a URL you should also always use 
> stringByAddingPercentEscapes or stringByAddingPercentEscapesIncludingReserved 
> (in this case the latter, because you want to escape everything including 
> characters like /&=). And as noted above, you can only add links in RTF with 
> the text equal to the full URL or path.

I'll correct that also.

> You cannot include images in a HTML preview. As I noted before, you cannot 
> have external files (like css or images), as it is based on data, not on 
> files. You can also not link to remote images, because a text view also does 
> not download anything.

Actually, remote images worked today, on the latest stable version of BibDesk.

> In tomorrow's nightly you can add images and external .css files as accessory 
> files, and they will be used for the template based preview. Refer to them by 
> the filename (relative path).

That's very cool thanks! It helps to have the CSS separate, and the
possibility of adding pictures makes for more creative templates.

Thanks a lot,

JiHO
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