Dear Pandit ji,If you are so much scared of your employer Govt in this case in giving out your opinion freely and frankly then the readers should not take your views seriously or should consider you as a spokesperson for Sarkari opinion. It is not fair for us then to take your views seriously.My request to you is to stand up and speak out because the Constitution has guaranteed you Freedom of speech. Your views must save the rivers and waters in them and those crores and crores who are dependent on the rivers, not confuse. You have so much favourable opinion of the courts but not on constitutional guarantees? This is contradictory. Law peculiarly looks at each and every individual as a Unit with some Rights guaranteed or otherwise. For the court each and every individual stake holder has some reason to exist and not to be sacrificed for larger numbers. Courts normally ask Govt. or Developers to protect such individual and then continue with the projects either relocate or rehabilitate etc. But when the whole concept itself is under the scanner then it is not a question of majorityminority stake holders. vns 2009/9/19 Chetan Pandit Dear Shri Kaushal, I had read the name of your organization in the news, in the context of a PIL in favour of Bhagirathi projects, but was not aware of further details. As a Government servant, it would be improper for me to get drawn too deep into this debate. But your petition has made an important point, and perhaps for the first time in India. For too long it has been assumed that the fate of a project should be decided only by those who are adversely affected by its construction.. This is wrong. Those who are adversely affected by its “nonconstruction’ are also equal stake holders, and should have an equal say.. And you petition seems to have made that point. This is just a beginning. There is a long distance to go. With best wishes Chetan PanditFrom: Dr.V.N. Sharma Sent: Saturday, 19 September, 20 09 9:35:22 Subject: Re: [Kosi] Re: Save Ganga and save Water for everybody in the Ganga Basin.Dear Sri Kaushal,,I don't think there are very many people talking sensibly on the issue of Environment. Just by saying that all others are pseudo environmentalists or religious fundamentalists does not help us neither in understanding of the env. issues nor in finding solution to the problems facing us. Nor by quoting Mr. Mandela we get anywhere because we do not know the context in which it was said. Presently, a lot of discussion is going on on Climate Change whether it is there or not and what may be the solution in either case. Many took the "Joint science academies’ statement:Global response to climate change" to accept that Climate Change is thereSuch a document can confuse many people. It will be an unscientific approach to accept them the Sarkari (Govt ) Scientists as they are on their face value.Most important is to ask whether there is a limit to development becaus e development seem to be interrelated to Global Warming/ Climate Change. No answer excepttrade and commerce proposal seem to be coming.My own understanding of the Climate Change is that either the diagnosis is wrong or the prescription is severely faulty. I understand that changes in temperature have been observed in the past also. There is a need to study this phenomenon by more scientific accuracy and in historical context. Because the cause of Climate Change is shown to be massive burning of fossil fuel, coal, oil, gas etc. But no IPCC or Scientific recommendation refers to closing down such systems which consume the fossil fuel e.g. the Car factories which is the most unwanted expansion on earth. No recommendation has been made nor individual Nation has decided ever to lower down production of Cars and encourage introduction and betterment of public transport system. Another reason that all the documents for consideration at Global or G8/ G20 or whatever G levels talk ab out expansion of business like carbon trading andtransfer of newer technologies from developed to developing nations. How on Earth can anybody think of maintaining the same level of Carbon dumping in the atmosphere and still besmart enough to control Climate Change? In my considered view it is more of a trade and commerce than Enviroment damage control or Climate Change control discussion. We had Mr. Bush till the other day that American Life is not for compromise. So according to him somebody else's life belonging to Third World countries should be for compromise.What does one expect unless the third world can jointly fight out against such schemes of the Global Powers?2009/9/18 RLEK Dear Pandit ji, Greetings from RLEK. Thank you very much for your email, I appreciate your concern for marginalized people and the citizen’s of India in the name of protecting environment. You may be aware that RLEK started Environment Jurisprudence in this country much before the issue was discussed in Rio de Jenario’s conference in1992 on the Environment Vs Development.Some so called pseudo environmentalist who are not only ignorant but arrogant as well are trying to stop the development on the behest of some biased religious fundamentalist who are the main cause of Ganga pollution. Ganga from Gomukh to Haridwar does not irrigate one single agriculture field in Uttarakhand.Nelson Mandela, Former President of South Africa, at the Launch of Final Report of World Commission on Dams in London on 16 November 2000 has rightly said “Taking responsibility is not a question of principle, but of survival. In developing nations, like mine, we know that political freedom is priceless; it is worth risking ones life for. But freedom alone is not enough without light to read books at night, without time or access to water to irrigate your farm, without the ability to catch fish to feed your family.â€Whenever you are in Dehradun and have sometime, we wi ll be too happy to welcome you at RLEK.With best regards, Yours sincerely, Avdhash Kaushal Original Message From: Dr.V.N. Sharma To: Chetan PanditSent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: [Kosi] Re: Save Ganga and save Water for everybody in the Ganga Basin.Dear Pandit Ji, Let it go as a reminder to the members to help refresh their memory and logic. Because not much improvement took place in the Ganges. Also such letters and Annexures make the new readers more knowledgeable and better informed. Pl. remember that everybody is not as knowledgeable and well informed as you seem to be on the subject. Thanxvns 2009/9/17 Chetan PanditQuite unnecessary, because the target addressees do not need any further convincing, very likely they are going to say the same thing anyway. However, the citizens of India have always managed to defeat environmental extremism.. The people won the Sardar Sarovar case, Indira Sagar case, the Tehri case, etc. etc. and I have confidence that the citizens of India will not allow India to remain backward and underdeveloped in the name of protecting environment.Chetan PanditFrom: Dr.V.N. Sharma Cc: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 16 September, 2009 19:14:51Subject: [Kosi] Save Ganga and save Water for everybody in the Ganga Basin.. Dear All,I am forwarding a letter from Dr. Jhunjhunwala in the form of representation to be forwarded to the following Nine nonofficial members of the Ganga River Basin Authority constituted recently by the GOI. Their names and addresses are in the attached file. However the email ids are given below for your quick reference/ [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]. Jhunjhunwala's letter and guidance is given below. Pl. go through this and f orward the Attached representation letter (Short or Long version) to the Dear Friend of the Rivers: The Government has constituted a Ganga River Basin Authority. Nine nonofficial members have been included. List of members along with their email id and phone nos is attached. I understand the first meeting of the Authority is scheduled on October 5th. I feel we must actively interact with the members and seek their intervention against indiscriminate expoitation of our rivers for generation of hydropower. I attach a draft representation that may be sent by us to the members so that the issues are brought to their knowledge. I attach the representation in two versions. The long version is more detailed while the short version is crisp.It would be wonderful if you can meet the members in your city in person and impress upon them the need to look seriously at these issues. I shall be thankful if you would send an appropriate representation to the members.. Please feel free to mo dify the representation as per your understanding. If you may, please send me a copy of the representation sent by you for our record and future use. Thank you, Bharat JhunjhunwalaLakshmoli, PO MalethaVia Kirti Nagar, Uttarakhand 249161Phone: 919411109777/1378264186 Dr..V.N.Sharmahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dr.V.N.Sharma "Those who have the privilege to know, have the duty to act." Albert Einstein"The only thing necessary for Evil to Flourish is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke Dr.V.N.Sharmahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dr.V.N.Sharma "Those who have the privilege to know, have the duty to act." Albert Einstein"The only thing necessary for Evil to Flourish is for good men to donothing" Edmund Burke~~~~~~~~~"Let's Discuss Kosi's Solution" You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "Discuss Kosi" group. 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