My suggestion is the same as Jeff's; my usual route home goes West on Dayton
Street and then left onto Randall.

But I think there *should* be a safe and rational way to turn left from
University Avenue onto Randall (or Mills, for that matter; it has the same
problem).  The intersections aren't safe for turning bikes because the
traffic signals never clear the intersection; whenever University Avenue
traffic stops, left-turning cars from Randall (or Mills) take over.  If
you're trying to turn from the side of the street (which is bikes are
supposed to be), there's never a time when your path is clear.

But this problem exists because of the way the lights are programmed.  If
Traffic Engineering added a short left-turn-only phase for University Avenue
traffic, bikers would be able to get from the bike lane to Randall or Mills
without risking a side-trip to the Emergency Room.

Would this suggestion (or something like it) be feasible?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schimpff, Jeff A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jay Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Bikies] Negotiating intersection


> Jay, I'd avoid University altogether, head south on Frances or a similar
street, and take Dayton to Randall. I wouldn't send a badly behaved dog down
University Avenue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Jay Otto
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Bikies] Negotiating intersection
>
>
> Hello Bikies,
>
> After years of bike commuting in Madison, I feel capable of dealing
> with most situations, but I'm still left with a few mysteries. One of
> which is: Is there any safe/rational/physically possible way to make a
> left turn from University Ave. heading westbound onto Randall Street?
>
> My usual technique is to avoid the intersection whenever possible. This
> may be the best way to deal with an unpleasant situation.
>
> Moving from the westbound bike lane into the far left lane prior to
> reaching the intersection is the rational/legal method, however the
> volume and speed of motor vehicle traffic quite often remove it from
> the realm of possibility.
>
> Stopping at the light and crossing the intersection as a pedestrian is
> generally possible, but given the common crowds of students, traffic,
> and the fact that there is only a crosswalk is on the wrong side of
> Randall Street (the east side), doesn't make this straight forward
> either.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions? Or just continue to avoid the area like the
> plague and wait for the Missing Link to be completed?
>
> Jay Otto
>
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