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Re: [Bikies] Glenway St. Intersection with Southwest Multi-use Path
Mitchell Nussbaum
Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:27:55 -0700

Stop signs work fine when drivers obey them, and most drivers do obey
them, more or less, but when drivers don't pay attention, the signs can
fail catastrophically.  A few weeks ago, for example, I was riding down
Regent St. near Hilldale on a bright sunny day.  While I was passing
through the Owen Dr. intersection, a driver on S. Owen stopped at the stop
sign.  Then she apparently decided I didn't exist, hit the accelerator,
and came within inches of my bike.

This sort of incident doesn't happen to me very often, but it has happened
before, and it's not very pleasant.  Unfortunately, bikes do not always
register in the consciousness of drivers at stopped signs, and I think
their attention might be even worse than usual at a four-way stop with a
bike path (which is not a "real street," after all, and not really worthy
of respect).

So I worry that bikers crossing Glenway who rely on a four-way stop for
protection might sometimes be disappointed.

If we want to slow down traffic on Glenway and improve bike safety, I
think the City will have to lay down some concrete, one way or another. 
I'd like to suggest a raised crossing, like the one in front of the
City-County Building; it would act as a speed hump and make the bike path
more visible.
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Nothing is going to be 100% effective all the time in stopping collisions at 
intersections (except maybe a 6 foot thick concrete wall).  

At least with a 4-way stop, drivers that obey the sign are not going to be 
traveling that fast.

You say you'd like to suggest a raise crossing that would act as a speed hump 
and make the bike path more visible.  

Didn't you read my message?  You are S-O-L if you don't reside in the immediate 
area of Glenway Street.  You don't get to vote.  

Anyway, as for raised concrete, the city engineer said speed bumps can't be 
used on Glenway, because it's a route used often by emergency vehicles (of 
something to that effect).  

Mike  


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