> It is very possible to legally navigate the intersection.  If one was 
> properly trained in Driver's Ed you learn that the first stop must be 
> at the stop sign before the crosswalk.  If you cannot safely see 
> from that location you must pull forward and make a second stop 
> where you can safely see.

The sticky point is 346.52(1)(b):

"Stopping prohibited in certain specified
places. 

(1) No person may stop or leave standing any vehicle,
whether attended or unattended and whether temporarily or otherwise, in
any of the following places:

[...]

(b) On a crosswalk."

As I interpret it, the law requires two stops and the second stop cannot
be made over a crosswalk.  But, at that particular intersection, you
really can't see far enough (in my opinion) to the left until the
driver's eyeballs are over the first crosswalk line.  That implies that
the vehicle must come to a stop on the crosswalk.

> The marking of a crosswalk is more for guidance.  It is not a 
> requirement that you must stay within the lines.  The majority of 
> crosswalks at intersections in Madison are not marked.

The sticky point here is:

"346.25 Crossing at place other than crosswalk. 

Every pedestrian, bicyclist, or rider of an electric personal assistive
mobility device crossing a roadway at any point other than within
a marked or unmarked crosswalk shall yield the right-of-way to
all vehicles upon the roadway."


"340.01 (10):
"Crosswalk" means either of the following, except where
signs have been erected by local authorities indicating no crossing:

(a) Marked crosswalk. Any portion of a highway clearly indicated
for pedestrian crossing by signs, lines or other markings on
the surface; or

(b) Unmarked crosswalk. In the absence of signs, lines or
markings, that part of a roadway, at an intersection, which is
included within the transverse lines which would be formed on
such roadway by connecting the corresponding lateral lines of the
sidewalks on opposite sides of such roadway or, in the absence of
a corresponding sidewalk on one side of the roadway, that part of
such roadway which is included within the extension of the lateral
lines of the existing sidewalk across such roadway at right angles
to the center line thereof, except in no case does an unmarked
crosswalk include any part of the intersection and in no case is
there an unmarked crosswalk across a street at an intersection of
such street with an alley."

As I read this, anyone traveling outside of the crosswalk markings (of a
marked crosswalk) must yield to all vehicles upon the roadway.

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