I would ask that you not call the witness. The witness saw a horrific death and we should respect his privacy- I think it was a male. The MV4000 is just a brief summary of what happened. In crashes like this there are much more extensive reports that should answer some of the questions we have. I will try to get those reports this week and give folks more information.
Steve Meiers Safety educator Madison Dept. of Transportation Box 2986 Madison, WI. 53701 (608) 267-1102 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> "Matt Logan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/03/05 11:23 PM >>> -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rewey Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:01 AM > * Did the FedEx actually stop behind the cross walk? I have no > doubt the driver stopped, but where? Drivers at this location cannot > safely pull out - due to sight restrictions in both directions - unless > they are totally across the cross walk and ahead of the stop sign. > This would require a double stop. Good Question. I have been contemplating calling the witness myself and asking him where the FedEx truck initiated it's forward motion from prior to colliding with the bicycle/ist. I spent a good deal of time at that intersection last week. The default behavior is that motorists stop at a point where they feel comfortable seeing the traffic coming from the left, perhaps glancing right prior to coming to a stop, and possibly looking right after initiating their right turn. However it would be unfair to assume that everyone does this. One odd tidbit is that that intersection is actually impossible to navigate legally. This is because it is illegal to stop within the crosswalk, yet this is exactly where a motorist would have to stop to see properly (according to the law). Optimally, the design of the street and building layout in this area should be changed so that adequate sight lines are maintained. > * Citing the bicyclist for "Fail to Yield Right of Way" as a probable > cause is troublesome. The truck had a stop sign and Marquette is > a thru street. Does that mean that if after stopping, the truck > pulled out and was hit by a car on Marquette, the probable cause > would be the car on Marquette failed to yield? Who would get a > ticket in this case? The stop sign is before the cross walk for a > reason. There seems to be some motorized bias in reasoning. In > reality the truck failed to yield the right of way. The funny thing is that once a bicyclist or pedestrian is outside of the marked crosswalk in this situation, a motorist has no specific obligation to yield to them. Unfortunately, the angle of the sidewalk ramp encourages people to stray outside of the crosswalk markings. In fact, I suspect it would be impossible for a person in a wheelchair to stay entirely within the confines of the marked crosswalk at that intersection. Such ramp/crosswalk placement should be discouraged and/or the law should change to accommodate the obvious human reaction to that environment. _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies
