> From: Larry Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

>Matt was misinformed on one of his facts, that being "only business
>people supporting the Todd Drive project showed up".  Matt didn't get
>that information from city staff at the PBMV Meeting and it didn't come
>from the attendance sheet of the January 13, 2005 Perry Street Public
>Information Meeting.  
 
[snip...]

Larry, thanks for keeping us bikies up on our facts!  It is true, I did
not obtain my information from the sources you cite below.  What is
certain is that not enough people showed up to the January 13th meeting
to make a difference.

As Paul T. O'Leary suggested in a spinoff thread, notifying the public
is important, and I'll do a better job of keeping everyone up to date on
the items that I am aware of.  

After digging through my archives I discovered that the notice for the
Jan. 13 meeting was posted to this list on December 29th 2004.  I
checked my personal PDA, and the meeting was in there for Thursday
January 13th, I just didn't attend, or follow up with written comments.
One problem I can see from my perspective (besides me slacking off) is
the location of the meeting.  Jan 13 was probably quite cold, it was
dark, the location was not centrally located for the core bikie
community, and was separated by the beltline for the people I believe
would most directly benefit from the construction of the overpass.

---

FYI, here is the notice I dug up:

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:19:51 -0600
From: Robbie Webber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Bikies] Jan 13 - Perry St overpass of Beltline

Passing on a notice of a public meeting:
************************************
Notice of Public Informational Meeting

Perry Street Bike/Pedestrian Overpass
South Madison Beltline USH 12
City of Madison, Dane County
Project I.D. 1206-06-03

ALL INTERESTED PERSONS ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that Mead & Hunt, Inc.,
consulting engineers, and the Wisconsin Department of Transportation
(WisDOT) will host a Public Informational Meeting on Thursday, January
13, 2005, in the community room at Fire Station No. 6, 825 W. Badger
Road, at the intersection of Perry Street and Badger Road, in the City
of Madison. The meeting will consist of an open house format from 7:00
to 9:00 pm, with a presentation at 7:00 pm. After the presentation
people are encouraged to review exhibits and ask questions about the
project.

The proposed project consists of constructing a new pedestrian overpass
crossing Madison~Rs South Beltline at Perry Street. The overpass will be
located approximately 0.15 miles west of the junction of the Beltline
with U.S. Highway 14. The total project length is not anticipated to
exceed 1,300 feet.

The purpose of this meeting is to solicit public input on the
preliminary design for this project. Persons with concerns for
pedestrian and or bicycle access at this location are encouraged to
attend this meeting or provide comments to WisDOT or Mead & Hunt.

The meeting location is handicap accessible. The hearing impaired can
contact Mead & Hunt by e-mail or call through the Wisconsin
Telecommunications Relay System at (800) 947-3529 to request an
interpreter if they plan to attend the meeting.

Persons who cannot attend this meeting but have questions or wish to
voice their opinions and/or concerns, may contact the following:
Mead & Hunt, Inc.
6501 Watts Road
Madison, Wisconsin 53719
(608) 273-6380
fax: (608) 273-6391
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mike Rampetsreiter, P.E., PDS Project Manager
WisDOT ~V District 1 (Madison)
2101 Wright Street
Madison, Wisconsin 53704
(608) 246-7917
fax: (608) 246-5380
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_______________________________________________

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:58:42 -0600
From: Robbie Webber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Bikies] Perry St overpass of Beltline - part two

After sending the message as a courtesy to the consultants, I pulled out
the city bike map. Boy, do we need this connection!

As anyone who as biked Fish Hatchery Rd or Seyne Rd knows, getting over
Although there are "bike lanes" on Fish Hatch, there is also a big
interchange. If isn't pretty folks, to have people acelerating and
deacelerating in the same lane, weaving behind and in front of you, and
generally terrorizing all but the most hardened cyclist.

Seyne Rd is a lovely bike route, but if you follow it north past the Cap
city Trail, you get dumped on Fish Hatchery - yuck!

For recreational bicyclists, commuters, and anyone wanting a better
"escape route" across the Beltline, this will be great.

Hope people come out to support the project and to comment on the
design.

-- Robbie


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