I am tired of Eric changing the subject line.  You can't follow any thread, 
subject matter or discussion.

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Michael Rewey
Madison, WI
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---- Eric Westhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Dear Kirk,
> 
> Good try to show that bicycle advocacy crosses all boundaries and the
> "rights of others."  Certainly advocacy groups tend to work in that
> way.  Particularly when all the members and the purpose is of "one
> mind."  Advocacy groups are not concerned with the questions of "other's
> rights" or whether or not their "minority" should hold sway.  After all,
> that is what a "pressure group" is all about.  But, once again, that is
> effective when the "pressure goup" is of "one mind."
> 
> Maybe the BFW IS OF ONE MIND.  Certainly most who write about this
> question here are much of one mind in that "they ride bikes" and the
> world had better "shape up."  Maybe the group should "promote bicycling"
> to others who do not bicycle.  I contend that bicycling in the rural
> areas has been on the decline for years.  For seventeen years while I
> have assembled and run a "totally free" annual time-trial race, called
> the LOUIS REED TEN MILE TIME TRIAL, only a handful or two bother to
> come.  It is a race for everybody on any kind of bicycle and where a
> person "only races himself."  The few years I have tried to promote this
> race on "bikies" nobody from Madison or the list has come.  We hardly
> have more riders that the corner guard volunteers in numbers.  I don't
> claim that this alone points to the decline in the road bicycle, but I
> simply do not see any bicycles when I am out riding in the countryside.
> 
> Certainly an "advocacy group" has a mission to advocate with the power
> structure as it exists.  It is silly to point fingers at my comments and
> suggest there is STATE control in most advocacy directions and is part
> of advocacy.   We must deal with reality and the power structures as
> they exist.  But I point out that is not the same as advocating controls
> against one group at the expense of another.  BFW should not pit their
> "city cousins against their country cousins" over land rights and
> broader issues.  And this is particularly true when the issue has no
> direct bicycle connection, but merely addresses one's view on
> interpreting, "quality of life."
> 
> Working for "top-down" STATE controls in the hopes that will encourage
> bicycle use is putting the horse before the cart.  If more people ride
> bikes,  bike friendly communities will AUTOMATICALLY follow.  Of course
> there should be bicycle infrastructure "in reason."  And that will
> encourage children to ride bicycles more and longer.  It has been
> pointed out that consumers of houses are hasty and don't demand in their
> own interest.  Well,  educate them on the advantages of bicycle trails
> in their neighborhoods and they will demand them.  Right now consumers
> of new houses in most cases don't even demand sidewalks.  Children are
> driven to activities.  If their parents are "shown" how sidewalks and
> bike trails could contribute, such would be universally demanded of and
> offered in new development.
> 
> After people do populate a "cul de sac" community without even
> sidewalks, and then they BECOME BICYCLE CONSCIOUS, they will demand that
> their local politicians build with their "tax pie" bicycle
> infrastructure.
> 
> Regardless of our drumbeat about how "unhealthy" Americans are, we are
> still in an age where personal health and exercise resonates with most
> adults.  It is to this "market" a bicycle advocacy group should direct
> itself.  There are only so many ways to exercise and if given a choice
> most might choose the "bicycle" over other means--that was the case with
> me.  And in cities, the advocacy promotion subset is work commuting, the
> primary issue in Madison.
> 
> Eric
> 
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