I only managed to get to half of McKibben's speech, but I don't recall any "gauzy talk" about Priuses. The only mention I heard was relatively dismissive: if you really need a car, there's no excuse for buying one that gets less than 55 mpg., but in a place like Madison you don't really need a car. I suppose he could have said that all cars are evil, and ordered the expulsion of anyone in the audience who drove to the speech, but that's not really his style.

I have to say that I liked what I heard. His core message was that we would be happier and more satisfied with our lives if we reduced our carbon footprint: a sustainable economy doesn't have to be a "darker and more straitened version of our present lives;" our lives can be more pleasurable, more sociable, and less bloated with stuff we don't have room to store. If we can change the discourse so that people think of sustainability as a move to a better life, and not as sacrifice and suffering, politicians will have no choice but to follow the voters' lead.

What alternative does Mike propose? How do we get basic change without a real movement that supports and demands it? Bloomberg's experiences in New York may be a case in point. His proposal to collect a fee from every car that drives into the downtown half of Manhattan is an excellent idea, which would benefit the great majority of his constituents; but it's stalled because the Legislature won't approve it, and because a lot of residents of the outer boroughs -- most of whom never drive into Manhattan -- somehow resent the congestion fee proposal as an attack on them. We have to change the discourse before a proposal like this will be discussed rationally. I suspect the carbon tax -- which is another excellent idea -- would meet the same fate.

McKibben said he was asked for three things people could do to save the planet, and he answered: organize, organize and organize. If you have a better idea, I'd like to hear it.

(P.S. Bloomberg was a Democrat until he ran for Mayor, and he has not party affiliation now. So it's misleading to call him a Republican.)

On Nov 3, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Michael D. Barrett wrote:

So we went to see Bill McKibben last night, and as expected, much gauzy talk about the virtues of Toyota Prions & other 1/10 measures wrt to the CO2 problem.

But it felt like a revival, I tell ya!

McKibben's main theme was to develop a movement that, in addition to screwing in a new light bulb, "screws in a new Senator." All well & good, but I fear it will be just new pols who talk a good talk about Global Warming, but won't have the first clue as to how to actually get us there. Local examples abound such as Madison's state delegation being all hot to trot on Global Warming legislation while cutting funds for actual solutions. Transit, bikes & ped funds all got cut (when accounting for inflation) in the last budget cycle. There is not one Madison pol who went to bat for these green transportation options. While cutting transit for tens of thousands of bus riding Madisonians, my state senator worked his ass off to get a $40,000,000 expressway project for the Village of DeForest, population 7,000 (sa-alute!).

Then there is the example of our green mayor strangling transit throughout his tenure while ramping up highway expansions out every cowpath. (Oh, but he got a warm welcome by the assembled enviros!)

NYC Mayor Bloomberg--that's *Republican* Mayor Bloomberg--is light years ahead of McKibben and every liberal pol on this one:

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/bloomberg-calls-for- tax-on-carbon-emissions/

It really is simple. Just tax the carbon high enough that people respond by burning less. No response? Charge more. Keep ratcheting it up til people get the message, or, run out of money to burn more. That'll learn 'em!

There is one niggling problem though; he sees the CO2 tax as forcing a shift over to natural gas. Maybe. But that will last all of about, oh, five years (or less) before that becomes cost prohibitive (a good thing, btw). Again, that is niggling because the price factor will just force the 3 E's anyway: Efficiency, efficiency, efficiency. The big bonus: Efficiency. An added bonus: We'll be forced to consume less. And be more efficient. Ahem.

Yes, yes, I hear the cries of the concerned: 'What about the poor?!' Bloomberg addresses this by proposing that the carbon tax be revenue-neutral: "'green taxes'...would be offset by reductions in other taxes," specifically, "to use the revenue from pollution pricing to cut the payroll tax." That is, create jobs!

I think it is disgusting that a Republican money man is so far out ahead of the "good" liberal politicians & public intellectuals like McKibben. Ugh.

Of course, I'll never forgive Bloomberg for stomping on the 1st Amendment and *the* killer app/solution to the Global Warming problem--bicycling--back in Aught 4 during the Republican Nat'l Convention....So yeah, once we've been priced out of our cars and wisely start riding our bikes we'll be caught in the maw of his anti-bike brown-shirts. Hmmm.

Caught between a Toyota Prion-driving liberal and a baton-wielding, ahem, authoritarian,

Mike






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