Speaking of stop signs that should be removed, the stop signs for the east rail 
corridor bike path where it crosses Thornton Avenue that cul-de-sacs just past 
that at the beginning of the Yahara River bike path should also be removed.  
Since the bike path has far more traffic than the car traffic on Thornton, the 
stop signs should be removed and perhaps yield signs put up for motorists on 
Thornton.

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>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/7/2008 4:34 PM >>>
Arthur,

I would like to request that the stop signs on the Yahara path at Main
Street be removed.  Actually, at this point the city would only have to
remove one sign - the construction in the area ended up pulling one of
the signs out already.

Why?

The signs are not being obeyed at all because there is almost no car
traffic along this stretch of Main.  This makes the signs appear as an
unwarranted impediment to passing bicyclists. I worry that passing
motorists, seeing the signs on the path, may incorrectly assume that
bicyclists are going to stop.  This creates a dangerous situation.

I have heard a similar argument from TE for not installing Signs/signals
for pedestrians along Northport drive:  A lack of constant ped traffic
creates the same perception of an unwarranted impediment to traffic on
Northport and the result is a more dangerous situation when pedestrians
expect the Northport traffic to obey the signal.

I would also like to refresh your memory of the history of this area: 
Before the path was constructed it was actually easier and safer for a
bicyclist to navigate Thornton between the Isthmus path and East
Washington.  Why?  Because Thornton was basically a through street at
this stretch with no stop signs - the signs were on Main Street.  When
the path was constructed, the first thing that happened was the signs on
main came down and the signs on the bike path went up.  Here again we
see an example where a street primarily intended for car traffic gets
top access, while the same area as a multi-use path is instantly demoted
on the food chain.  This is another one of the 10,000 little whispers I
hear from the city of Madison that I would be treated better if I drove
a car more.



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