Hello all,
This got passed along to me...good piece.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-posner/cycling-has-an-image-prob_b_109824.html
Also, Jeff Schimpff and I rode the unfinished portion of the Badger Trail
yesterday, outside of some mowing, a fix to one wash out area and configuring a
safe crossing of PD/McKee..there doesn't seem to be that much remaining to
convert the trail in what it is as it begins south...it's a no brainer to get
it done...stat. The PD crossing is potentially the largest dollar issue...but
in the meantime...making that the new North trail head for the time being would
make sense too...close to the end of the southwest trail that runs along
Seminole...plentiful street parking...and some off street, services (Barriques
Coffee and a Cowboy Cookie are excellent riding energy!)...etc. I'll follow up
with a web link to look at photos and some more descriptor...of interest to
note is that there were several bridges already placed for water crossings and
they are in decent shape....the base for riding is great in most parts, and
Jeff knows plants and trees better
than I but there is nice diversity, as well as great views etc. When we got
to the northernmost trailhead, we encountered a few folks who had ridden to
Illinois and back and loved it (the trail, not Illinois)..it'll be cool when
this trail connects to the largest urban area on its route.
Stay tuned, Troy
Troy Thiel
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1. Re: Re: Isthmus article on bike parking (Robbie Webber)
2. Re: [Bikes] Re: Isthmus article on bike parking (Michael T Neuman)On Thu,
Jun 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> But from Robbie Webber's message the City recommends against using
those Bike Feds racks and would rather mandate that organizations who put on
such events find more volunteers to staff bicycle corrals.
I said that one individual at the city - Arthur Ross - doesn't want
the racks used. I have not surveyed other city employees, nor the
Council or Mayor, so I don't believe you can say "the City"
recommends
against using those Bike Fed racks." I mentioned that Arthur doesn't
like them in reply to a message asking why those racks cannot or have
not been permanently installed somewhere.
In addition, since no one at the city has mandated that volunteers
staff bike corrals, nor has anyone, myself included, introduced such
legislation at any level, I believe the above statement is incorrect.
Many people have approached me over the years to say that, "Large
events should have adequate bicycle parking." I agree, however, there
is quite a bit of discussion and negotiating to do before the City of
Madison passes such requirements. I am only one member of the Council,
so even if I had made up my mind how legislation should read, I still
need ten other votes.
There are several ways to assure that adequate bicycle parking is
provided. Only one of those ways is to put the burden on the
sponsoring organization, however it is not the only route. One of the
ways that a sponsoring organization can provide adequate bicycle
parking is to get their own volunteers to staff a bike corral. Another
way is to hire or barter with another organization to staff a bike
corral. (One reason it is easy to get volunteers to do bike parking at
the beer festival is that those volunteers get free entrance to an
event that has sold out every year.) There are other options as well.
Please refrain from making statements about what "the City" does,
says
or requires, when the opinion of one person might not represent
official city policy.The Bike Fed racks worked really great for our Blues
Society picnic at
Warner Park on June 21, which attracted several thousand people. I don't
see why those racks would have to be permanently installed (they are 12
or more feet long). In fact, my original comment was that it would be
better if those racks were NOT permanently installed at a site. The
reason is the racks would then be able to be moved around from park to
park, and within parks, as needed.
In fact, may the the City should consider purchasing or accepting the 10
Saris bike racks from Bike Fed for that purpose, since the Bike Fed
doesn't have the equipment (trucks) to make those racks easily available
to the public at the City's parks, and the City does?
As for getting volunteers, as I mentioned previously, we would not have
been able to staff a bicycle corral at our picnic since we were already
short on volunteers. Nor would we have been able to barter for free
entrance to the picnic to obtain more volunteers, since entry to the
Madison Blues Society's annual blues picnic is always free of charge.
Since we had no additional volunteers to staff the bicycle corral at the
park from noon to 9 pm that day, we chose to transport the Bike Fed's
racks to the park instead. But it was no small task to transport those
racks to Warner Park in a minivan and return them to East Wilson Street
after the event. The City would have been far better equipped to do
that, and it might have been just as well to have left the racks at
Warner Park anyway, since the City is already remiss in not providing
adequate bicycle storage there for normal summertime park use to begin
with.
As for a City requirement mandating organizations sponsoring large events
at parks to provide and staff bicycle corrals at those events, I would
not be in support of that, particularly for organizations who do not
charge entry frees to their events. I would rather see the City of
Madison take on that responsibility, since it already charges those
organizations for use of the city parks, and moreover the City should be
providing a larger baseline amount of bicycle facilities at most of it
parks anyway than it currently provides, as you stated as well.
Mike Neuman
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:59:22 -0500 "Robbie Webber"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But from Robbie Webber's message the City recommends against
using
> those Bike Feds racks and would rather mandate that organizations
> who put on such events find more volunteers to staff bicycle
> corrals.
>
> I said that one individual at the city - Arthur Ross - doesn't want
> the racks used. I have not surveyed other city employees, nor the
> Council or Mayor, so I don't believe you can say "the City"
> recommends
> against using those Bike Fed racks." I mentioned that Arthur
> doesn't
> like them in reply to a message asking why those racks cannot or
> have
> not been permanently installed somewhere.
>
> In addition, since no one at the city has mandated that volunteers
> staff bike corrals, nor has anyone, myself included, introduced
> such
> legislation at any level, I believe the above statement is
> incorrect.
>
> Many people have approached me over the years to say that, "Large
> events should have adequate bicycle parking." I agree, however,
> there
> is quite a bit of discussion and negotiating to do before the City
> of
> Madison passes such requirements. I am only one member of the
> Council,
> so even if I had made up my mind how legislation should read, I
> still
> need ten other votes.
>
> There are several ways to assure that adequate bicycle parking is
> provided. Only one of those ways is to put the burden on the
> sponsoring organization, however it is not the only route. One of
> the
> ways that a sponsoring organization can provide adequate bicycle
> parking is to get their own volunteers to staff a bike corral.
> Another
> way is to hire or barter with another organization to staff a bike
> corral. (One reason it is easy to get volunteers to do bike parking
> at
> the beer festival is that those volunteers get free entrance to an
> event that has sold out every year.) There are other options as
> well.
>
> Please refrain from making statements about what "the City"
does,
> says
> or requires, when the opinion of one person might not represent
> official city policy.
>
>
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