Dear Michael T. Neuman,

Even if statistics might not be your field, I am sure you understand the ability to obfuscate the reality with statistics.  Unless you give the actual facts, don't round up and down on gross catagories to your advantage.  For instance:  I don't know any more about Texas road finance than you do.  But the reality might be that the "sales taxes" used are those from motor vehicles?  And maybe gas is the sales tax.  Who knows.  And we know that the gas tax funds, both Federally and State are already being raided for mass transit.  So, what percentage is that of the whole?  And the statistics of the entire mix of funding items can be mixed and twisted to tell any story one wishes for knee-jerk sound bits.  Both sides--yours, and the talk radio people play free and loose with statistics.  Again, with most people, and especially---you, it is "don't bother me with the facts, my mind is made up."  That came from Shakespeare or someone?

Eric

Michael T Neuman wrote:
> In Wisconsin , 68% of local road costs come from non-user fees- - like property taxes (40+% of Madison property taxes go to roads). In Ron Paul’s hometown, 100% of local road costs are paid for by sales taxes.  Therefore, we bicyclists are already paying we just aren't getting our money’s worth out of the system because the money is redirected into facilitating car travel.
>
 
The roadbuilding industry (and their bought and paid for people in our government) would like nothing better than if everyone believed that motor vehicle users are the only ones who pay for highways and bridges.   Matt Logan's information above shows otherwise. 
 
The roadbuilding industry and state government also argue vehemently that all fuel tax money, from purchases of gasoline, ethanol and diesel fuel taxes, should be used only for transportation projects.  This is an equally ridiculous and unjustifiable assumption given the fact that there are monumental other costs (environmental, safety, other) that those who excessively drive motor vehicles in our community impose on the rest of us.
 
Mike Neuman

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Dear Troy Thiel,

Possibly what the Mayor of Normal forgot is paying for the bike initiative?  Since our road system is paid in user taxes, what part of biking should be taxed for the bike riders' largess?  Since there are few running expenses except for equipment, bike stores would simply cease.  I enjoy riding on good automobile pavement.  (the bike friendly ones)  And I am a "freeloader" in that regard even though the wear and tear is negligible.  But if this plan by the Normal Mayor takes hold, "bike unfriendly roads" would be required to have bike paths I would expect or what else would he be talking about?  Can we ask the gas tax to pay for that on some crock about an hypothesis of "automobile caused global warming?"  But the regulars on this list service can frame Mayor Chris Koos and pass along his resolution to Barak Obama in hopes of a royal hearing.



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