Arthur is right. "Awful" is not a very constructive critique on my
part. Still, I think the problems with the light (alternating extreme
head on glare and patches of dark) are best understood not by words but
by first hand experience.
Some of the "Owl Path" advocates have detailed the problems in this
visual report most of which I agree with:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39132997/SW_path_Lighting_Proposal_Safety.pdf
If the path is to be lit, I hope that our lighting engineers will
discover (or hold out for) a more suitable lighting technology.
Dave
PS: I'm looking forward to checking out the Cannonball Path which Arthur
said provides a better sense for how riders would experience a longer
stretch of lighting.
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It's difficult to get a feel for what the path will look and feel like from a
single, or two, lights. To get a better idea of what the lighting will be like
ride or walk the Cannonball path whee the same fixture has been installed. The
easiest access to the Cannonball Path is at Post Road between Todd Drive and
Leopold Elementary School.
Please provide constructive critique. Using a term like "awful" does not tell
us anything. What do like or dislike about the lighting? What would you prefer?
Remember the path is not just for bicyclists who are required to use lights at night to
be seen by others, but also by pedestrians, runners, and other non-motorized users.
Arthur Ross, Pedestrian-Bicycle Coordinator
City of Madison, Traffic Engineering Division
215 Martin Luther King, Jr., Blvd., Suite 100
PO Box 2986
Madison, WI 53701-2986
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Subject: [Bikies] Second thoughts on SW Path Lighting
This issue is not simply bike advocates VS NIMBY homeowners, nor is it Lights
VS No-Lights folks. The folks who have actually seen the proposed lighting at
Council Bluff will likely understand my meaning. Whatever you feel about
whether bike paths should be lit by riders or by an external source, I think
most bikers who experiences the test light adjacent Council Bluff will agree
that it is awful.
As a long time BFW member and commuter on the SW Path since '03, I really hope
bike advocacy groups don't rally members to blindly support this poorly
conceived lighting plan. Until a vastly better design is proposed, I much
prefer to keep on using my LED bike light for my evening commute. The handful
of neighborhood bikers I've talked to agree.
If you haven't already, please take some time to check out the test lights and pass along your
suggestions toallalders at cityofmadison.com
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cityofmadison.com <http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org>> before
the Dec 11 hearing
Dave Long
...and no, I'm not an adjacent homeowner
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David Long
Applied Population Lab
University of Wisconsin
Phone: 608.262.3097
http://www.apl.wisc.edu/
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