oops..ticketed...we plan these things but without enforcement..welllllll...are
we really safer?...guess that's the point
Troy Thiel
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From: Troy Thiel <[email protected]>
To: "STRAWSER, Charles" <[email protected]>; Jym Dyer <[email protected]>;
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Bikies] FW: Feedback about Bikeway-Park St -Vilas to
hmm...as someone who rides and drives the square multiple times a day..and have
for 10 years...I can't think of ONE instance where I've seen a non right
turning vehicle ticked for going straight, not once...yet I see it a dozen
times a day plus...3 sides of the transportation safety pyramid, engineering,
education AND enforcement.......would suggest enforcing these rules on occasion
to "educate"...
Troy Thiel
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From: "STRAWSER, Charles" <[email protected]>
To: Jym Dyer <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Bikies] FW: Feedback about Bikeway-Park St -Vilas to
Jim,
The lanes around the capitol square are not bike lanes, they are shared
lanes. Hence the shared lane markings and also text pavement markings that
say "bike bus only" and overhead signs that say "bike bus right turns only"
(or something to
that effect).
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part9/part9c.htm#figure9C09
MUTCD guidance says that Shared lane markings should not be used on streets
with a posted speed limit above 35mph. I can't think of any streets in the
downtown with a posted speed limit higher than 25 mph. Even Campus Drive is,
I think, posted 30mph, even though much of it is grade separated.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jym Dyer
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Bikies] FW: Feedback about Bikeway-Park St -Vilas to
> The City of Madison recently replaced the diamond pavement markings
> that have been around the capitol square since I moved here in 1997
> with Shared Lane Markings and text.
=v= Clarification, please? Shared Lane Markings (sharrows, a chevron and a
bicycle stencil) are NOT supposed to be used for bike lanes, they're supposed
to be used in lower-speed travel lanes. Bike lanes are, rather, to be
indicated with just a bicycle stencil (or the text "BIKE LANE").
=v= Here are accompanying graphics from the same website:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part9/part9c.htm
<_Jym_>
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