That's up to the city since that's city of Madison ROW. I'll ask. If the city 
agrees, I can provide temporary racks (albeit the same obsolete ones we use to 
mitigate bike parking displaced by construction elsewhere on campus. See the 
parking lot between Memorial Union and Red Gym, e.g.).

Chuck Strawser
Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner
Commuter Solutions
Transportation Services
UW-Madison
Room 124 WARF
610 Walnut St
Madison WI 53726
608-263-2969
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From: Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rick opel
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Bikies] A lot of bike parking near University Bookstore is going 
away

Any chance temp tracks could be installed on the sidewalk terrace on the east 
side of UW bookstore ? If nothing else it would (hopefully) displace the 
disgusting row of scooters that has taken over the area in the last 2-3 years.

 On 5/8/2014 8:46 AM, STRAWSER, Charles wrote:
All of the bike parking on the east and west facades of Memorial Library will 
remain during and after reconstruction of State St Mall (though some 
departments on campus would like to see all the bike parking on the west façade 
of Memorial Library replaced with table and chairs-which I agree would be a 
good use of that space so long as we can find someplace to relocate that bike 
parking, but I'm not seeing it now).

State Street Mall (the 700-800 blocks) will incorporate a 26' wide fire lane 
down the middle of it after construction (upon which cyclists will be able to 
ride as they do now on East Campus Mall). This means, iirc, that Fitch Ct (the 
alley next to University Bookstore) will no longer have to serve as a fire lane 
for the bookstore. That, in turn, means that the old obsolete racks in Fitch Ct 
that were designed to park bikes at an angle (to reduce the depth of the 
footprint they take up) will be replaced with racks that park bikes 
perpendicular to the building. I believe the "coathangers on a rail" style rack 
is planned for that alley (similar to Dero Campus or Saris City racks, such as 
the ones outside MMB and CCB and elsewhere on State St). There are also plans 
for a Bcycle station to be located there. And there will be about 30 bike 
parking spaces added to the west end of the 800 block of State St near Park St 
between Humanities and the Historical Society building.

The University advocated for the use of our newly designed and approved (for 
use on campus) high density racks to increase capacity, but city staff does not 
approve of our high density racks. Admittedly, our high density racks do not 
meet APBP standards if you only consider the bike parking in two dimensions, 
but our feeling is that by staggering the heights of every other stall, we 
mitigate handlebar interference, and provide adequate spacing (so long as you 
consider all three dimensions). Clearly the high density racks sacrifice a bit 
of convenience for people using them, but gain the benefit of 33% more capacity 
than our single-sided "duckbill" bike racks and 45% more capacity than 
duckbills when they are double-sided.
Another benefit is that bikes with large front racks or baskets can still use 
the new high density rack as intended, whereas the design of the "duckbill" 
stalls obstructs most front baskets and racks.
"Inverted U" racks accommodate nearly any kind of bike with nearly any 
handlebar and/or rack/basket configuration, but only when spaced to APBP 
standards, and then we get even less capacity than duckbills (when placed in 
double-sided configurations). Union South was rebuilt with enough inverted Us 
to accommodate 206 bikes (including Us installed on the west façade of Comp 
Sci), yet we've counted over 300 bikes there. So the versatility of Us goes out 
the window when three bikes are locked to every U, and half of them are falling 
down so that there is virtually no access to most bikes, and certainly a lot 
less convenience.

I probably shouldn't have brought this up since I don't really have time to 
discuss the pros and cons of various rack designs ad infinitum, and I'm sure 
this post will foment such a discussion. Let me just point out that University 
(system, not UW-Madison) policy is that bikes can ONLY be locked to racks - not 
light poles or signs or anything else that the city allows bikes to be locked 
to (so long as they don't impede ped and vehicle access).

So if I don't provide enough bike parking to meet demand on campus, someone 
calls us and asks us to impound the bikes that are locked to things other than 
racks. That's not the case in the city, so while a dearth of bike parking on 
State St and elsewhere in the city is a huge problem, at least it doesn't mean 
the city is likely to impound your bike because there wasn't an open bike rack 
space anywhere in site of your destination.

Speaking of which, how's that study of downtown bike parking coming along?


Chuck Strawser
Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner
Commuter Solutions
Transportation Services
UW-Madison
Room 124 WARF
610 Walnut St
Madison WI 53726
608-263-2969
www.wisc.edu/trans<http://www.wisc.edu/trans>

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Rewey
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 6:54 PM
To: Bikies
Subject: Re: [Bikies] A lot of bike parking near University Bookstore is going 
away

The mall is going to be reconstructed from Lake to Park.

http://www.cityofmadison.com/engineering/statest/

Mike Rewey



On 7 May 2014 at 16:26, Mitchell Nussbaum wrote:

> I noticed this afternoon that the bike racks along the side of University 
> Bookstore have BIKE REMOVAL signs posted, indicating that the racks will be 
> removed on May 19.
>
> These racks are not very good, and bikes that are locked there stick out a 
> few feet into Fitch Court -- not a very good idea -- so it's not so terrible 
> to see them go. Nonetheless, those racks represent a lot of capacity that 
> will be going away very soon. Does the City or the University have any plans 
> to replace that capacity with something more adequate?
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