Btw, this project (State St Mall 700-800 block reconstruction) commences May 19 and the contractor's contract says should be mostly complete by August 29, i.e. while the majority of students are gone for the summer. The permanent bike parking (of course) won't be installed until sometime Sept 2 - final completion in October, though I've strongly encouraged them to install the bike racks as soon as possible since the students will be back in classes Sept 2. I'm hoping it won't be quite as bad as we fear. chuck
From: Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of STRAWSER, Charles Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:38 AM To: rick opel; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] A lot of bike parking near University Bookstore is going away That's up to the city since that's city of Madison ROW. I'll ask. If the city agrees, I can provide temporary racks (albeit the same obsolete ones we use to mitigate bike parking displaced by construction elsewhere on campus. See the parking lot between Memorial Union and Red Gym, e.g.). Chuck Strawser Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner Commuter Solutions Transportation Services UW-Madison Room 124 WARF 610 Walnut St Madison WI 53726 608-263-2969 www.wisc.edu/trans<http://www.wisc.edu/trans> How are we doing? Take our customer satisfaction survey at https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CommSol_CSSurvey Visit our University Bicycle Resource Center at Helen C White: http://transportation.wisc.edu/transportation/bike_annex.aspx From: Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rick opel Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:32 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bikies] A lot of bike parking near University Bookstore is going away Any chance temp tracks could be installed on the sidewalk terrace on the east side of UW bookstore ? If nothing else it would (hopefully) displace the disgusting row of scooters that has taken over the area in the last 2-3 years. On 5/8/2014 8:46 AM, STRAWSER, Charles wrote: All of the bike parking on the east and west facades of Memorial Library will remain during and after reconstruction of State St Mall (though some departments on campus would like to see all the bike parking on the west façade of Memorial Library replaced with table and chairs-which I agree would be a good use of that space so long as we can find someplace to relocate that bike parking, but I'm not seeing it now). State Street Mall (the 700-800 blocks) will incorporate a 26' wide fire lane down the middle of it after construction (upon which cyclists will be able to ride as they do now on East Campus Mall). This means, iirc, that Fitch Ct (the alley next to University Bookstore) will no longer have to serve as a fire lane for the bookstore. That, in turn, means that the old obsolete racks in Fitch Ct that were designed to park bikes at an angle (to reduce the depth of the footprint they take up) will be replaced with racks that park bikes perpendicular to the building. I believe the "coathangers on a rail" style rack is planned for that alley (similar to Dero Campus or Saris City racks, such as the ones outside MMB and CCB and elsewhere on State St). There are also plans for a Bcycle station to be located there. And there will be about 30 bike parking spaces added to the west end of the 800 block of State St near Park St between Humanities and the Historical Society building. The University advocated for the use of our newly designed and approved (for use on campus) high density racks to increase capacity, but city staff does not approve of our high density racks. Admittedly, our high density racks do not meet APBP standards if you only consider the bike parking in two dimensions, but our feeling is that by staggering the heights of every other stall, we mitigate handlebar interference, and provide adequate spacing (so long as you consider all three dimensions). Clearly the high density racks sacrifice a bit of convenience for people using them, but gain the benefit of 33% more capacity than our single-sided "duckbill" bike racks and 45% more capacity than duckbills when they are double-sided. Another benefit is that bikes with large front racks or baskets can still use the new high density rack as intended, whereas the design of the "duckbill" stalls obstructs most front baskets and racks. "Inverted U" racks accommodate nearly any kind of bike with nearly any handlebar and/or rack/basket configuration, but only when spaced to APBP standards, and then we get even less capacity than duckbills (when placed in double-sided configurations). Union South was rebuilt with enough inverted Us to accommodate 206 bikes (including Us installed on the west façade of Comp Sci), yet we've counted over 300 bikes there. So the versatility of Us goes out the window when three bikes are locked to every U, and half of them are falling down so that there is virtually no access to most bikes, and certainly a lot less convenience. I probably shouldn't have brought this up since I don't really have time to discuss the pros and cons of various rack designs ad infinitum, and I'm sure this post will foment such a discussion. Let me just point out that University (system, not UW-Madison) policy is that bikes can ONLY be locked to racks - not light poles or signs or anything else that the city allows bikes to be locked to (so long as they don't impede ped and vehicle access). So if I don't provide enough bike parking to meet demand on campus, someone calls us and asks us to impound the bikes that are locked to things other than racks. That's not the case in the city, so while a dearth of bike parking on State St and elsewhere in the city is a huge problem, at least it doesn't mean the city is likely to impound your bike because there wasn't an open bike rack space anywhere in site of your destination. Speaking of which, how's that study of downtown bike parking coming along? Chuck Strawser Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner Commuter Solutions Transportation Services UW-Madison Room 124 WARF 610 Walnut St Madison WI 53726 608-263-2969 www.wisc.edu/trans<http://www.wisc.edu/trans> "How are we doing? Take our customer satisfaction survey at https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CommSol_CSSurvey " From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Rewey Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 6:54 PM To: Bikies Subject: Re: [Bikies] A lot of bike parking near University Bookstore is going away The mall is going to be reconstructed from Lake to Park. http://www.cityofmadison.com/engineering/statest/ Mike Rewey On 7 May 2014 at 16:26, Mitchell Nussbaum wrote: > I noticed this afternoon that the bike racks along the side of University > Bookstore have BIKE REMOVAL signs posted, indicating that the racks will be > removed on May 19. > > These racks are not very good, and bikes that are locked there stick out a > few feet into Fitch Court -- not a very good idea -- so it's not so terrible > to see them go. Nonetheless, those racks represent a lot of capacity that > will be going away very soon. 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