I will say since the button-activated flashers have been there, I have seen
about 99% compliance with cars stopping. Following the good general advice just
listed, I feel it is a safe intersection, far safer than many crossings of
University Avenue!
Dave
On Friday, July 11, 2014 5:19 PM, Larry D. Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>I appreciate that all of the construction activity on the beltline Highway has
>probably changed the ADT on County highway PD, and increased the number of
>frazzled commuters, but the last time I looked at the traffic figures, PD was
>comparable to the crossing at all Odana and Midvale Blvd. Regardless, the
>construction of a bridge at both locations will enhance the transportation
>aspects of both these major bikeways.
>
>
>"If we build them they will come...."
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:38 PM, Mary Mullen <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
>Re: [Bikies] ambiguous intersections considered dangerous
>Good to hear. I think it is a pipe dream that bicyclists using the Badger
>State Trail would go out of their way by a quarter or half a mile or more to
>cross PD on the soon-to-open new bridge by General Beverage and the landscape
>company. A previous respondent suggested that a separated grade crossing
>would not be necessary once that bridge is open. I definitely would not do
>that unless my goal were unltimately to be on the Military Ridge Trail even
>though it might seem faster to do so when I'm waiting for rush hour traffic.
>
>
>On 7/11/14 10:15 AM, "Schaefer, William" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The City of Fitchburg applied for federal Transportation Alternatives
>> Program
>> funding for a grade-separated crossing at this intersection. The city is
>> also
>> planning to reconstruct this section of McKee Road (in conjunction with
>> WisDOT
>> work on the section further west as part of new Verona Rd interchange) and
>> has
>> applied for federal funds through the MPO for this project. The
>> grade-separated crossing (probably a tunnel) would be done as part of the
>> street project. It is scheduled for 2019.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William
>> Hauda
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:02 AM
>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Bikies] ambiguous intersections considered dangerous
>>
>>
>> I totally agree with you, Darin. This is a crossing crying for a
>> safer solution. Your experience illustrates why.
>> Greatest danger with flashing lights on a major four-lane road is
>> when a car yields in the lane closest to the cyclist while a car in the
>> adjacent lane (and out-of-sight of the cyclist) keeps going.
>> The problem is especially severe during rush hour. McKee gets a
>> huge
>> volume of motor vehicle traffic at precisely the same time cyclists are
>> commuting to and from work or getting out for recreation or a workout. I've
>> repeatedly expressed my concerns to the powers that be that we need a bridge
>> or tunnel instead, despite serious buried and aerial infrastructure issues
>> that would need to be addressed. It would cost much more than simply putting
>> up flashing lights, but the payback would, along with making everything more
>> pleasant for both drivers and cyclists, include probably saving lives.
>> Perhaps it's time to discuss this in detail and determine a course
>> of
>> action. McKee is slated for reconstruction and this would appear to be an
>> appropriate time to include a safer crossing in the road plan. It will be on
>> the August agenda for the board of directors of Friends of Badger Trail. My
>> board's copied in. As are some of those powers that be.
>> Bill Hauda, Fitchburg, president FOBT
>>
>> At 09:23 AM 7/11/2014, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Heading South on the Badger Trail, I approached the intersection with
>>> CTH PD (Mckee Road) with my usual caution. I don't use the meaningless
>>> and ambiguous 'warning signal', because it is meaningless and
>>> ambiguous.
>>>
>>> One car on PD came to a stop, either because of the mistaken notion
>>> that they are required to yield, or of the equally mistaken notion that
>>> they are being 'nice'. Usually I just wave them on, because it is an
>>> ambiguous situation, and that makes me nervous. At a minimum I check to
>>> see if there is traffic behind the stopped car.
>>>
>>> My caution was warranted this time. Some dude-bro comes speeding along,
>>> seemingly unaware of the car stopped in from of him. At the last
>>> moment, he brakes hard, tires squealing, narrowly avoids rear-ending
>>> that car, and passes in the right lane; then takes off.
>>> Leaving the lovely smell of burnt rubber hanging in the air.
>>>
>>> I suppose its possible that if I had activated the ambiguous warning
>>> signal, it would have alerted the speeding dude-bro, but I kind of
>>> doubt it.
>>>
>>> My message to car drivers is pay attention, follow the rules of the
>>> road, and don't try to be 'nice'.
>>> --
>>> darin burleigh
>>>
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