You don't need spandex to make it up that hill, Tim; maybe just an increase of spinach and Wheaties in your diet;)
The two major issues with this proposed reconstruct are: 1) the conversion of a 10-15,000 VMT roadway to a 4-lane (plus turn lane) boulevard and 2) the installation of a 5' unbuffered/unprotected bike lane on a that 4-lane, 40mph design-speed roadway. Why do we want to build a stroad here? Why would a N. Sherman-style TWLTL not work? Do we honestly ever expect anyone other than the bold and fearless to use this bike lane? What example can we point to where grandmothers and children are comfortable riding on this sort of facilty? There are no alternate routes to cross the interstate on bicycle between Milwaukee and Buckeye. Why does that matter? Here are travel times by bike from the middle of this New Urbanist neighborhood: Elvejem School-9 minutes Kennedy School-11 min LaFollette-23 min Rolling Meadows Shopping Center-7 min YMCA/Royster Clark dev.-13 min Pinney Library-14 min Lake Edge Shopping Center-16 miin Olbrich Park and Gardens-19 min And of course there are a ton of residents on the west side of the interstate that could (should) have great bike access to the grocery store or Great Dane in this neighborhood as well. Do we resign to have all of those trips happen by personal MV or are we seriously committed to promoting and facilitating bike travel as a real transportation alternative? On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:54 PM, tim wong via Bikies < bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: > that long hill up Cottage Grove Rd. is a deterrent to many, especially the > non-Spandex commandos. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Robbie Webber via Bikies < > bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: > >> Got this from Grant Foster (below). With few driveways and a complete >> reconstruction of the roadway, this is a perfect opportunity to build >> protected bike lanes. Even if they were only protected with plastic >> bollards, that would give a visual cue to motorists and would likely also >> visually narrow the driving area and slow traffic. >> >> With a signed speed limit of 40 MPH and a wide-open feel likely meaning a >> much higher actual average speed, Cottage Grove Rd as proposed is hardly >> bike friendly. Yet it is a significant "escape route" to eastern Dane >> County and a growing area with new urbanist neighborhoods being built. >> >> When we have the chance to build a much safer and more bike-friendly road >> -- which will also be safer for pedestrians and transit users -- it is a >> crime not to do so. >> >> [start forwarded message] >> >> There will be an update provided to PBMVC on Tuesday, 10/27, on the >> future Cottage Grove Rd. project. Would be a good time to register any >> feedback with the commission regarding the expansion to a 4-lane section >> and the unbuffered/unprotected bike lanes proposed (note: they have grown >> from 4' to 5' in width). Always great to show up and share your thoughts >> verbally or you can also send in written comments ahead of the meeting. >> >> Details of project here: >> >> https://madison.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2501564&GUID=C351E991-D620-49CD-B60E-FE794FFCD38B >> >> >> Robbie Webber >> Transportation Policy Analyst >> 608-263-9984 (o) >> 608-225-0002 (c) >> rob...@robbiewebber.org >> All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of >> my employer or any other group with which I am affiliated. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> Bikies@lists.danenet.org >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> > > > -- > "If we continue to consume the world until there's no more to consume, > then there's going to come a day, sure as hell, when our children or their > children or their children's children are going to look back on us--on you > and me--and say to themselves, 'My God, what kind of monsters were these > people?'" > > --Daniel Quinn > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > Bikies@lists.danenet.org > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > >
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