Preposterous. PREPOSTEROUS!!!

Expect no meaningful response other than that, not from here. Such a high horse 
mentality, utterly diabolical!

Michael De Roover

> On 16 May 2025, at 03:53, akritrim® Intelligence™ <inli...@akritrim.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> i didn’t receive your reply but saw this on lists archive so replying to you:
> 
> 
> 
> Do be aware that Ondrej is a member of ISC, the organization that develops
> BIND. He is also one of the maintainers of the Debian release of BIND which
> you are using.
> 
> Why should i be aware? Is he is a threat or something??
> 
> In general, claiming that everyone but you is wrong is not exactly a
> teamplayer mentality, and creates aversion towards getting you the help you're
> asking for. Not just Ondrej or the other developers ISC employs, the entire
> list really.
> 
> I claim no such thing.
> 
> Or going even further than that, any list, any support channel. Not even just
> voluntary ones like this, even paid support channels aren't going to like
> customers who act like that. Those are paid to help you and to be nice to you,
> yes, but don't be surprised if it diminishes the quality of the help you are
> to receive.
> 
> I don’t share your views.
> 
> Do consider it, in any case.
> 
> I wont. from someone who cant even search the internet
> 
> N.B.: A trademark office allowed you to get a trademark on the term
> "Intelligence"?
> 
> TM is not a LEGAL symbol. again learn to google and not hurl accusations in 
> public and make a fool of yourself.
> 
> 
>> On 21/04/2025 8:25 pm, akritrim® Intelligence™ via bind-users wrote:
>> version: BIND 9.20.8-1+0~20250416.117+debian12~1.gbp1ea9dd-Debian (Stable 
>> Release) <id:> (<<REDACTED>>)
>> running on localhost: Linux x86_64 6.1.0-33-cloud-amd64 #1 SMP 
>> PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.133-1 (2025-04-10)
>> boot time: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:40:59 GMT
>> last configured: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:40:59 GMT
>> configuration file: /etc/bind/named.conf
>> CPUs found: 1
>> worker threads: 1
>> number of zones: 10 (0 automatic)
>> debug level: 0
>> xfers running: 0
>> xfers deferred: 0
>> xfers first refresh: 0
>> soa queries in progress: 0
>> query logging is ON
>> response logging is OFF
>> memory profiling is INACTIVE
>> recursive clients: 0/900/1000
>> recursive high-water: 0
>> tcp clients: 0/150
>> TCP high-water: 25
>> server is up and running
>> is this any way related to this?
>> From 9.20.8 release notes:
>> Restore NSEC3 closest-encloser lookup improvements.
>> A performance improvement for finding the closest encloser when generating 
>> authoritative responses from NSEC3 zones was previously reverted after a bug 
>> was found that could trigger an assertion failure. ([GL #4460], [GL #4950], 
>> and [GL #5108]) The bug has now been fixed, and the performance improvement 
>> has been restored. [GL #5204]
>>> On 21/04/2025 7:12 pm, Mark Andrews wrote:
>>> What does ‘rndc status’ return?
>>>> On 21 Apr 2025, at 13:05, akritrim® Intelligence™ via bind-users 
>>>> <bind-users@lists.isc.org> wrote:
>>>> Thank you for your help. it does give insights into the problem.
>>>> if you check dnsviz history, this does not happen everytime.
>>>> the bind version is BIND 
>>>> 9.20.8-1+0~20250416.117+debian12~1.gbp1ea9dd-Debian
>>>> obtained from: https://www.isc.org/download/  —->  
>>>> https://bind.debian.net/bind
>>>> there are no firewalls or load balancers. these are directly connected to 
>>>> internet. i was running BIND 9.18 official debian package and got no 
>>>> errors like this.
>>>> On 21/04/2025 4:46 am, Crist Clark wrote:
>>>>> The version of BIND and where you got it would be a good start. Any load
>>>>> balancers, firewalls, etc. between the server and internet that might 
>>>>> touch
>>>>> the DNS records?
>>>>> True DNSSEC gurus please check my math.
>>>>> DNSvis is correct. You're not sending the proper NSEC3 records. Like the
>>>>> RFC says, "It takes three to tango," or NSEC3 denial of existence. You 
>>>>> sent
>>>>> two. For a name where two levels of label don't exists,
>>>>> l5tz4.1i89a.akritrim.net
>>>>> You should send back three NSEC3 records,
>>>>> 1) NSEC3 record that proves 1i89a.akritrim.net (
>>>>> 18QMAAOCT0HPNGCPD9MLONVAK13DS8HT) does not exist.
>>>>> 2) NSEC3 record for akritrim.net (N1MI0QA6QNO2L00GAT0PE6PEGGHHI48P).
>>>>> 3) NSEC3 record proving the wildcard, *.akritrim.net (
>>>>> 6L23GRBE4JIMA1A0G8DSBBUT32V6VCO1), does not exist.
>>>>> But you're not, you're only sending two,
>>>>> N1MI0QA6QNO2L00GAT0PE6PEGGHHI48P.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>>> QDO3A5R9G64L616H1K2FF3SUMFPPRV3J A NS SOA MX TXT AAAA RRSIG DNSKEY
>>>>> NSEC3PARAM CDS CDNSKEY CAA
>>>>> 67QJN06FLKRQCT38S4FF08EP31NDRL8S.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>>> 6LPNNJIVL1267OV5QQSBFLMFIDHMHJ8P TXT RRSIG
>>>>> Those are two I'd expect to see for (2) and (3), but where is (1)?
>>>>> But it's weirder. For this name,
>>>>> ebzoq.ik7ub.akritrim.net
>>>>> You are sending three NSEC3, but one doesn't look like the right one. You
>>>>> should send,
>>>>> 1) NSEC3 record that proves 1i89a.akritrim.net (
>>>>> S2NOKIAA732BLNNSEMCJ8KV74H6ICUEP) does not exist.
>>>>> 2) NSEC3 record for akritrim.net (N1MI0QA6QNO2L00GAT0PE6PEGGHHI48P).
>>>>> 3) NSEC3 record proving the wildcard, *.akritrim.net (
>>>>> 6L23GRBE4JIMA1A0G8DSBBUT32V6VCO1), does not exist.
>>>>> But these get sent,
>>>>> N1MI0QA6QNO2L00GAT0PE6PEGGHHI48P.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>>> QDO3A5R9G64L616H1K2FF3SUMFPPRV3J A NS SOA MX TXT AAAA RRSIG DNSKEY
>>>>> NSEC3PARAM CDS CDNSKEY CAA
>>>>> I559SEFHCJO35HED2LU4N68B44CA281V.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>>> KOGD0HOUD9R7BAB4LKQR2E9ALI57C7N0 A AAAA RRSIG CAA
>>>>> 67QJN06FLKRQCT38S4FF08EP31NDRL8S.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>>> 6LPNNJIVL1267OV5QQSBFLMFIDHMHJ8P TXT RRSIG
>>>>> The first and last are the same two we got previously and line up with (2)
>>>>> and (3). But we get this other one that doesn't line up with (1). But what
>>>>> I /think/ that might be is the record that would prove
>>>>> ebzoq.ik7ub.akritrim.net (IAT39F3MSSGS2D4O255VNHB67V2GCNVI) does not exist
>>>>> in its place.
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 10:29 AM akritrim® Intelligence™ via bind-users <
>>>>> bind-users@lists.isc.org> wrote:
>>>>>> i didn't specifically ask for your help. i don't know why you replied. 
>>>>>> yes
>>>>>> i do need help but this doesn't mean i can read your mind.
>>>>>> so let me know what 'bits' of information should i share that will
>>>>>> meaningfully help me. ( this is equivalent to saying '
>>>>>> if you need anything specific let me know.')
>>>>>> today language models are more context aware.
>>>>>> and if you don't want to share what do you 'need' then leave it be, i
>>>>>> don't want your help.
>>>>>> On April 20, 2025 5:17:46 PM UTC, "Ondřej Surý" <ond...@isc.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On 20. 4. 2025, at 17:57, akritrim® Intelligence™ via bind-users <
>>>>>> bind-users@lists.isc.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> anyways, if you need anything specific let me know.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Well, I don't really need anything, you've asked for help here, not I.
>>>>>> I've already told you what is needed,
>>>>>> >you didn't follow my advice :shrug:. The bits of information you have
>>>>>> provided are not sufficient to meaningfully
>>>>>> >help you.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Ondrej
>>>>>> >--
>>>>>> >Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
>>>>>> >ond...@isc.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not
>>>>>> feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> akritrim® Intelligence™
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