Can I get a indication here about what is expected to consume memory under fork and socket models as well as patterns to mitigate excessive memory consumption?
When using sockets, the model is that of multiple communicating machines running on their own memory, so it makes sense that memory usage is duplicated for loaded packages and the parent environment. But is the while data object duplicated or only the portion of the tasks assigned to a thread? i.e. 4 mb of packages, 4 mb of parent environment, 4 mb of data to run bplapply over, is each thread going to consume 12mb or 9mb of memory? It is unclear to me whether the data object operated on should be thought of as a part of the parent environment. When using forks, the model is that of multiple processes running on shared memory. This is specific to macOS and Unix variants and I believe the model is meant to share memory until a write operation causes variables to be copied. I also believe R’s internal memory management can potentially touch all the variables and cause copies, so the worse case scenario is that everything is copied. What’s unclear is whether this applies to loaded packages, are they under the supervision of a garbage collector? So as per the previous scenario, from the second thread onwards, do we expect up to (0 + 4 + 1)mb, (4 + 4 + 1)mb or (4 + 4 + 4)mb of memory usage? Maybe even the ideal scenario of (0 + 0 + 1)? With regards to patterns to efficiently use memory, is it sufficient to keep the parent environment as compact as possible? Are there clever ways to use local() for this? Kind regards, Shian On 6 Jan 2019, at 9:24 am, Martin Morgan <mtmorgan.b...@gmail.com<mailto:mtmorgan.b...@gmail.com>> wrote: In one R session I did library(SummarizedExperiment) and then saved search(). In another R session I loaded the packages on the search path in reverse order, recording pryr::mem_used() after each. I ended up with mem_used methods 25870312 datasets 30062016 utils 30062136 grDevices 30062256 graphics 30062376 stats 30062496 stats4 32262992 parallel 32495080 BiocGenerics 38903928 S4Vectors 59586928 IRanges 100171896 GenomeInfoDb 113791328 GenomicRanges 154729400 Biobase 163335336 matrixStats 163518520 BiocParallel 167373512 DelayedArray 280812736 SummarizedExperiment 317386656 Each of the Bioconductor dependencies of SummarizedExperiment contribute to the overall size. Two dependencies (Biobase, DelayedArray) look a little unnecessary to me (they do not provide functionality that must be used by SummarizedExperiment) but removing them only reduces the total footprint to about 300MB. Somehow it makes sense that a package like SummarizedExperiment uses the data structures defined in other packages, and that it has a complex dependency graph. It is surprising how large the final footprint is. One possible way to avoid at least some of the cost is to Import: SummarizedExperiment in the DESCRIPTION file, but not mention SummarizedExperiment in the NAMESPACE. Use SummarizedExperiment::assay() in the code. I think this has complicated side effects, e.g., adding methods to the imported methods table in your package (look for ".__T__" and ".__C__" (generic and class definitions) in ls(parent.env(getNamespace(<your package>)))), that indirectly increase the size of your package. I'm not exactly sure what you mean in your second paragraph, maybe a specific example (if necessary, create a small package on github) would help. It sounds like you're saying that even with doSNOW() there are additional costs to loading your package on the worker compared to in the master... Martin On 1/5/19, 2:44 PM, "Lulu Chen" <luluc...@vt.edu<mailto:luluc...@vt.edu>> wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your explanation which make me understand BiocParallel much better. I compare memory usage in my code before packaged (using doSNOW) and after packaged (using BiocParallel) and find the increased memory is caused by the attached packages, especially 'SummarizedExperiment'. As required to support common Bioconductor class, I used importFrom(SummarizedExperiment,assay). After deleting this, the memory for each thread save nearly 200Mb. I open a new R session and find pryr::mem_used() 38.5 MB library(SummarizedExperiment) pryr::mem_used() 314 MB (I am still using R 3.5.2, not sure any update in develop version). I think it should be a issue. A lot of packages are importing SummarizedExperiment just for a support and never know it can cause such a problem. My package still imports other packages, e.g limma, fdrtool. Checked by pryr::mem_used() as above, only 1~2 Mb increase for each. I also check my_package in a new session, which is around 5Mb. However, each thread in parallel computation still increases much larger than 5 Mb. I did a simulation: In my old code with doSNOW, I just inserted "require('my_package')" into foreach loop and keep other code as the same. I used 20 cores and 1000 jobs. Each thread still increases 20~30 Mb. I don't know if there are any other thing that cause extra cost to each thread. Thanks! Best, Lulu On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 2:38 PM Martin Morgan <mtmorgan.b...@gmail.com<mailto:mtmorgan.b...@gmail.com>> wrote: Memory use can be complicated to understand. library(BiocParallel) v <- replicate(100, rnorm(10000), simplify=FALSE) bplapply(v, sum) by default, bplapply splits 100 jobs (each element of the list) equally between the number of cores available, and sends just the necessary data to the cores. Again by default, the jobs are sent 'en masse' to the cores, so if there were 10 cores (and hence 10 tasks), the first core would receive the first 10 jobs and 10 x 10000 elements, and so on. The memory used to store v on the workers would be approximately the size of v, # of workers * jobs /per worker * job size = 10 * 10 * 10000. If memory were particularly tight, or if computation time for each job was highly variable, it might be advantageous to sends jobs one at a time, by setting the number of tasks equal to the number of jobs SnowParam(workers = 10, tasks = length(v)). Then the amount of memory used to store v would only be # of workers * 1 * 10000; this is generally slower, because there is much more communication between the manager and the workers. m <- matrix(rnorm(100 * 10000), 100, 10000) bplapply(seq_len(nrow(m)), function(i, m) sum(m[i]), m) Here bplapply doesn't know how to send just some rows to the workers, so each worker gets a complete copy of m. This would be expensive. f <- function(x) sum(x) g <- function() { v <- replicate(100, rnorm(10000), simplify=FALSE) bplapply(v, f) } this has the same memory consequences as above, the function `f()` is defined in the .GlobalEnv, so only the function definition (small) is sent to the workers. h <- function() { f <- function(x) sum(x) v <- replicate(100, rnorm(10000), simplify=FALSE) bplapply(v, f) } This is expensive. The function `f()` is defined in the body of the function `h()`. So the workers receive both the function f and the environment in which it defined. The environment includes v, so each worker receives a slice of v (for f() to operate on) AND an entire copy of v (because it is in the body of the environment where `f()` was defined. A similar cost would be paid in a package, if the package defined large data objects at load time. For more guidance, it might be helpful to provide a simplified example of what you did with doSNOW, and what you do with BiocParallel. Hope that helps, Martin On 1/3/19, 11:52 PM, "Bioc-devel on behalf of Lulu Chen" <bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org> on behalf of luluc...@vt.edu<mailto:luluc...@vt.edu>> wrote: Dear all, I met a memory issue for bplapply with SnowParam(). I need to calculate something from a large matrix many many times. But from the discussions in https://support.bioconductor.org/p/92587 <https://support.bioconductor.org/p/92587>, I learned that bplapply copied the current and parent environment to each worker thread. Then means the large matrix in my package will be copied so many times. Do you have better suggestions in windows platform? Before I tried to package my code, I used doSNOW package with foreach %dopar%. It seems to consume less memory in each core (almost the size of the matrix the task needs). But bplapply seems to copy more then objects in current environment and the above one level environment. 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