I'm pretty surprised that the karyoploteR package does not accept a
Seqinfo since it is plotting chromosomes. But again, please consider
just doing as(seqinfo(bsgenome), "GRanges").

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:59 AM Bhagwat, Aditya
<aditya.bhag...@mpi-bn.mpg.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Herve,
>
> Thank you for your responses.
> From your response, it is clear that the vcountPDict use case does not need a 
> BSgenome -> GRanges coercer.
>
> The karyoploteR use case still requires it, though, to allow plotting of only 
> the chromosomal BSgenome portions:
>
>     chromranges <- as(bsegenome, "GRanges")
>     kp <- karyoploteR::plotKaryotype(chromranges)
>     karyoploteR::kpPlotRegions(kp, crispr_target_sites)
>
> Or do you see any alternative for this purpose too?
>
> Aditya
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Pages, Herve [hpa...@fredhutch.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:24 PM
> To: Bhagwat, Aditya; bioc-devel@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Bioc-devel] Import BSgenome class without attaching 
> BiocGenerics (and others)?
>
> Hi Aditya,
>
> On 9/11/19 01:31, Bhagwat, Aditya wrote:
> > Hi Herve,
> >
> >
> >  > It feels that a coercion method from BSgenome to GRanges should
> > rather be defined in the BSgenome package itself.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >  > Patch/PR welcome on GitHub.
> >
> > Owkies. What pull/fork/check/branch protocol to be followed?
> >
> >
> >  > Is this what you have in mind for this coercion?
> >  > as(seqinfo(BSgenome.Celegans.UCSC.ce10), "GRanges")
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > Perhaps also useful to share the wider context, allowing your and others
> > feedback for improved software design.
> > I wanted to subset a
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.bioconductor.org_p_124367&d=DwMFAw&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=FGFwBT0tJu3lfRS_rafeatLzrPxK7PEM0aanQY4M6wY&s=xNa-6ZKTD1MnnfT55tntHjdK51Y1JQGQxTlzX2-OYmI&e=>BSgenome
> > (without the _random or _unassigned), but Lori explained this is not
> > possible.
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.bioconductor.org_p_124367&d=DwMFAw&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=FGFwBT0tJu3lfRS_rafeatLzrPxK7PEM0aanQY4M6wY&s=xNa-6ZKTD1MnnfT55tntHjdK51Y1JQGQxTlzX2-OYmI&e=>
> >
> > Instead Lori suggested to coerce a BSgenome into a GRanges
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.bioconductor.org_p_123489&d=DwMFAw&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=FGFwBT0tJu3lfRS_rafeatLzrPxK7PEM0aanQY4M6wY&s=6Eh73QthFfpPsfpRdPWs98pH6GHvv1Z23ORp34OCPxA&e=>,
> > which is a useful solution, but for which currently no exported S4
> > method exists
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.bioconductor.org_p_124416&d=DwMFAw&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=FGFwBT0tJu3lfRS_rafeatLzrPxK7PEM0aanQY4M6wY&s=H8owJlOQrNHwNFHfCxGHe27Jxu6xjxpuAMWK8JlTU4Y&e=>
> > So I defined an S4 coercer in my multicrispr package, making sure to
> > properly import the Bsgenome class
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.bioconductor.org_p_124442&d=DwMFAw&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=FGFwBT0tJu3lfRS_rafeatLzrPxK7PEM0aanQY4M6wY&s=2XNBVcwoJTjlxY_gl4UPzrHPKmKH9LTnM4ih5SQOfps&e=>.
> > Then, after coercing a BSgenome into a GRanges, I can extract the
> > chromosomes, after properly importing IRanges::`%in%`
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.bioconductor.org_p_124367&d=DwMFAw&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=FGFwBT0tJu3lfRS_rafeatLzrPxK7PEM0aanQY4M6wY&s=xNa-6ZKTD1MnnfT55tntHjdK51Y1JQGQxTlzX2-OYmI&e=>
>
> Looks like you don't need to coerce the BSgenome object to GRanges. See
> https://support.bioconductor.org/p/123489/#124581
>
> H.
>
> > Which I can then on end to karyoploteR
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.bioconductor.org_p_124328&d=DwMFAw&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=FGFwBT0tJu3lfRS_rafeatLzrPxK7PEM0aanQY4M6wY&s=M90_rBO1oohGnXe2XBpQHQriFNthY_W0hzN6KWlf2S4&e=>,
> > for genome-wide plots of crispr target sites.
> >
> > A good moment also to say thank you to all of you who helped me out, it
> > helps me to make multicrispr fit nicely into the BioC ecosystem.
> >
> > Speeking of BioC design philosophy, can any of you suggest concise and
> > to-the-point reading material to deepen my understanding of the core
> > BioC software design philosophy?
> > I am trying to understand that better (which was the context for asking
> > recently why there are three Vector -> data.frame coercers in S4Vectors
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.bioconductor.org_p_124491&d=DwMFAw&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=FGFwBT0tJu3lfRS_rafeatLzrPxK7PEM0aanQY4M6wY&s=nBHdQoTrd1Mfu4VTMgtkPyUQ0Ju2NLeX-0X1Ny3fSeg&e=>)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Aditya
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Pages, Herve [hpa...@fredhutch.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:45 PM
> > To: Bhagwat, Aditya; bioc-devel@r-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [Bioc-devel] Import BSgenome class without attaching
> > BiocGenerics (and others)?
> >
> > Hi Aditya,
> >
> >
> > More generally speaking, coercion methods should be defined in a place
> > that is "as close as possible" to the "from" or "to" classes rather than
> > in a package that doesn't own any of the 2 classes involved.
> > Is this what you have in mind for this coercion?
> >
> >  > as(seqinfo(BSgenome.Celegans.UCSC.ce10), "GRanges")
> > GRanges object with 7 ranges and 0 metadata columns:
> > seqnames ranges strand
> > <Rle> <IRanges> <Rle>
> > chrI chrI 1-15072423 *
> > chrII chrII 1-15279345 *
> > chrIII chrIII 1-13783700 *
> > chrIV chrIV 1-17493793 *
> > chrV chrV 1-20924149 *
> > chrX chrX 1-17718866 *
> > chrM chrM 1-13794 *
> > -------
> > seqinfo: 7 sequences (1 circular) from ce10 genome
> >
> > Thanks,
> > H.
> >
> >
> > On 9/6/19 03:39, Bhagwat, Aditya wrote:
> >  > Dear Bioc devel,
> >  >
> >  > Is it possible to import the BSgenome class without attaching
> > BiocGenerics (to keep a clean namespace during the development of
> > multicrispr<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gitlab.gwdg.de_loosolab_software_multicrispr&d=DwICAg&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=cXJaaEvfNbOioopXgFWQms1qny1xehFQyb3V3xDy55M&s=MIR-kUeXy9oWokdQxItuG82hrvs0uwP1aBIqNdM-Jrs&e=
> >  >).
> >  >
> >  > BSgenome <- methods::getClassDef('BSgenome', package = 'BSgenome')
> >  >
> >  > (Posted earlier on BioC
> > support<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.bioconductor.org_p_124442_&d=DwICAg&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA&m=cXJaaEvfNbOioopXgFWQms1qny1xehFQyb3V3xDy55M&s=oBSScH5uD5j0vCAaj4dfWepjiNGtHm9q5gA8eaIudZ4&e=
> >  > and redirected here following Martin's suggestion)
> >  >
> >  > Thankyou :-)
> >  >
> >  > Aditya
> >  >
> >  > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
> >  >
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> >
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