Tiago,
If you return a directed graph, the root will be a node with no incoming edges.

Peter

On Nov 3, 2009, at 13:55, Tiago Antão wrote:

But the point is that the class interface changes to the outside user:
1. How does one report back the root to the user?
2. Regarding the prefix stuff, should the user be allowed to specify a
preferred prefix?

Both this things imply interface changes visible to users.
If you still need volunteers to do the change, I can do it. But I need
to know what changes to the user interface are to be done.
For 1, maybe a method getRoot, returning a string with the name of the
root node?
For 2, maybe an extended version of the parse function with a suffix
as input parameter?

2009/11/3 Richard Holland <[email protected]>:
1. Lack of knowledge of root node

The Newick tree string is read as-is and is not parsed. It only gets parsed at the point of conversion to a Undirected or WeightedGraph inside the
TreeBlocks.java source code (inside the two types of get-As-JGraphT
methods). It's at this point the string is parsed and it's here that root note determination should take place. It's already known whether &R or &U have been specified here, which should help the code work out what to do.

2. The p* stuff.

Exactly the same part of the code as described above. Wherever it pushes values to the stack but prepends them with 'p' first, you'll need to change the 'p' to some instance variable and provide a getter/setter to change it,
with 'p' being the default setting.

cheers,
Richard


Tiago
2009/11/3 Richard Holland <[email protected]>:

Agreed that there is a bug. Now all we need is someone to go in and fix
it!
:)

cheers,
Richard

On 3 Nov 2009, at 18:16, Tiago Antão wrote:

2009/11/3 Thasso Griebel <[email protected]>:

There is a way to uniquely get a root from a newick string. Usually a rooted newick is surrounded with brackets, which indicates the root as
the
highest node in the tree. For example:

(A, (B,C))


Agree, it is quite easy to get the root of the tree from the newick representation. But it should be done on parsing and returned in some way by the parsing system. If the user has to do it again, it means
that the user has to parse it again just to know the root node.

I would also suggest to generally parse trees as rooted trees (maybe
jsut
for th initial internal model). Creating an unrooted tree from a rooted
 one
is easy, remove the root and forget about directions. The other way
might
be
hard and ambiguous.

100% agree.
The newick _representation_ always has a root by virtue of the way it is done. If that root has meaning or not depends. Doing as you suggest
seems the most reasonable idea.
I would add that even if it is an unrooted tree, the topology might be
of interest. In my case I am doing a comparative visualizer and it
might be nice for the user to be able to visualize the topology as
specified. It has no biological meaning, but in practice, for many
users, it helps.
I note that PhyloXML (even by virtue of being a XML format) always
represents the phylogenies as trees (not weigthed DAGs). There an
attribute rooted which can be true or false.

But, anyway. Even assuming a very conservative view on this, the
current parser, for rooted trees, does not allow to determine where is the root. I think that there would be a consensus that that is a bug?

Tiago

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