On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:33:30PM -0800, Devrandom via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Are there any candidates for non-interactive threshold signatures? > Interactive > signatures are not very suitable for air-gapped use cases.
I think you can work around this to some extent by "batching" signing requests. (Background: For interactive multisignatures (threshold or not), the protocol is: produce secret nonce r, calculate public nonce R=r*G everyone shares H(R) everyone shares R, checks received values match received hashes everyone calculates s=r+H(R',P',m)*p, shares s For deterministic nonces, you generate r=H(p,m) based on the message being signed and your private key, so can only start this process when you start signing, and the sharing rounds mean interactivity. ) But you don't strictly need deterministic nonces, you just have to never use the same nonce with a different message. If you arrange to do that by keeping some state instead, you can calculate nonces in advance: phase 1: produce secret nonces r1..r1024, calculate R1..R1024 share H(R1)..H(R1024) phase 2: store other parties hashes, eg as H1..H1024 share R1..R1024 phase 3: check received nonces match, ie H(R1)=H1, etc phase 4: request to sign msg m, with nonce n if nonce n has already been used, abort mark nonce n as having being used lookup other signer's nonces n and sum them to get R' calculate s = rn + H(R',P',m)*p share s That way you could do phases 1-3 once, and then do 1024 signatures during the month on whatever your current timetable is. You could also combine these phases, so when you get a signing request you: * receive msg to sign m, n=4; everyone else's R4, H(R5) * check H(R4) = previously received "H(R4)" * calculate R4' by summing up your and everyone's R4s * bump state to n=5 * do the signature... * send sig=(s,R4), R5, H(R6) which would let you have an untrusted app that does the coordination and shares the nonces and nonce-hashes, and getting all the needed air-gapped communication in a single round. (This is effectively doing phase 3 and 4 for the current signature, phase 2 for the next signature, and phase 1 for the signature after that all in one round of communication) That seems almost as good as true non-interactivity to me, if your signing hardware is capable of securely storing (and updating) a few kB of state (which is probably not quite as easy as it sounds). Cheers, aj _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev