> Today users should start cooperating again to continue using the
> optimal strategy.

the "gradual" method of reducing the % of miners required for lock-in
as time goes on seems to encode this optimal strategy.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 6:43 AM Ariel Luaces via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 12:09 PM Keagan McClelland via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > If social consensus is what drives technical consensus and not the other 
> > way around it seems as if there cannot exist a valid (rational?) reason to 
> > oppose Taproot itself, and then by extension with the arguments laid out 
> > above, LOT=true seems to be the logical conclusion of all of this, even if 
> > Core ships LOT=false at the outset.
> >
> > Where am I wrong here?
> >
> > Keagan
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 7:11 PM Jeremy via bitcoin-dev 
> > <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Personally, I think with either plan the ultimate risk of forking is low 
> >> given probability to activate before timeout, so we should just pick 
> >> something and move on, accepting that we aren't setting a precedent by 
> >> which all future forks should abide. Given my understanding of the 
> >> tradeoffs, I believe that the safest choice is LOT=true, but I wouldn't 
> >> move to hold back a plan of LOT=false (but would probably take mitigative 
> >> steps on community advocacy if it looks like there is non majority but non 
> >> negligible LOT=true uptake).
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Jeremy
> >>
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> To favor LOT=true because it seems like the inevitable result is like
> playing the prisoner's dilemma and never cooperating instead of using
> the most optimal strategy which is tit-for-tat (cooperating at first
> and then cheating once for every time your counterparty cheats).
>
> During segwit users started by cooperating (BIP9, or "LOT=false"),
> then a minority of
> miners didn't cooperate (small veto but remember the majority of
> miners cooperated), then users stopped cooperating in response (UASF),
> then miners
> reverted to cooperating (MASF while intolerant miners forked off).
> Today users should start cooperating again to continue using the
> optimal strategy.
>
> Cheers
> Ariel Lorenzo-Luaces
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