Hi all, 

It looks like there are only a few mailing lists left on
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo and all of the
remaining ones are using Mailman version 2.1.15, which is not the
current version - https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/   

Was there any decision made on where to move the bitcoin-dev mailing
list to? 

Thanks, 

Brad

On 2023-11-11 02:54, vjudeu via bitcoin-dev wrote:

> What about using Signet, or some separate P2P network, to handle all of that? 
> 
> 1. All e-mails could be sent in a pure P2P way, just each "mailing list node" 
> would receive it, and include to its mempool.
> 2. The inclusion of some message would be decided by signing a block. 
> Moderators would pick the proper messages, and publish them by broadcasting a 
> new block to all nodes.
> 3. Each message will be signed by some public key. It could be changed each 
> time, or even derived from some HD wallet. Only those owning "master public 
> keys" would know, which messages were sent by the same person.
> 4. The time of the block could be much longer than 10 minutes. It could be 
> for example one hour, one day, or even longer. Or, the commitment to all of 
> that could be just included "every sometimes" to the existing Signet chain, 
> because it would take no additional on-chain bytes, and can be easily done in 
> the coinbase transaction.
> 5. If there will be too much spam in the mempool, then hashcash-based Proof 
> of Work can be used to filter messages. Instead of fee-based filtering, it 
> could be Proof-of-Work-based filtering. Even better: because of "master 
> public keys", the regular participants could be allowed anyway, without 
> providing additional Proof of Work. Their signature would be sufficient in 
> that case.
> 6. The code is almost there. Maybe there are even altcoins, designed 
> specifically for storing data, and we could just use them?
> 7. This kind of decision would push things like Silent Payments forward. 
> Because then, you could develop scanners, to know, who wrote which message. 
> You could enter some "master public key", scan the whole chain, and find out 
> all messages written by that particular participant.
> 8. It would push commitments forward. Because then, it would be possible to 
> send some message to the "P2P mailing list network", and reveal it later. Of 
> course, it is not mandatory to accept commitments at all, which means, they 
> could be easily disabled, if they would be misused. Or we could start with no 
> commitments, and introduce them later if needed.
> 9. Because Signet challenge can contain some multisig, or even some Taproot 
> address, there will be no issue with using the same password to access the 
> moderation panel. Also, in that case, it is possible to prove later, which 
> moderator accepted which message. And also, it is still possible to use some 
> shared key, if revealing that is not desirable, or even it is possible to 
> easily reach "approved by all moderators" messages, because their Schnorr 
> signatures could be combined. Also, any K-of-N multisig can be battle-tested 
> in that way. 
> 
> So, I can see two options: reusing some existing P2P network, or making a new 
> one, designed specifically for handling mailing list messages in a pure P2P 
> way. I guess we can try some existing chains first, and if there is no 
> promising altcoin, or if we don't want to be associated with any altcoin, 
> then our own Signet-like network could solve it. 
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